Preliminary Final, Swans v Port, Fri 20 Sept 7.40pm SCG

[UUaswan]

5 of the last 6 in Adelaide

Never beat GWS in a final until last week

Who cares

[Dow]

5 of the last 6 in Adelaide

Never beat GWS in a final until last week

Who cares

Because if you don’t learn from history you are doomed to repeat it, that’s why !

[Thunder Shaker]

We have lost the last 8 games v Port and 3 of those where at home ? hope they bring Fox in for Mills and Luke Parker to replace BC as sub

Last time Sydney played Port Adelaide at the SCG, they won by 2 points when a shot for goal after the final siren fell just short.

The previous time was in 2018 (23-point loss).

History means nothing because both teams start the game with the same score.

Anyone who still wants to dabble in history should remember this history.

2012:
* Adelaide vs Sydney 2012 QF: Sydney 11.5 (71) defeated Adelaide 5.12 (42). Sydney's previous 14 games against Adelaide were 2 wins and 12 losses going back 10 years.
* Sydney vs Collingwood 2012 PF: Sydney 13.18 (96) defeated Collingwood 10.10 (70). Sydney's 11 previous games against Collingwood were all losses.

2024:
* Sydney vs GWS 2024 QF: Sydney 13.10 (88) defeated GWS Giants 12.10 (80). Sydney's previous 3 finals against GWS were all losses.

If it's time, it's time. And if we don't win, well it wasn't time.

[mcs]

No better time to break a 'hoodoo' or bad streak than a prelim final.

Moore Park precinct going to be busy on Friday night - NRL elimination final on next door at the same time! Can't wait for the parking and driving chaos haha!

[UUaswan]

Last time Sydney played Port Adelaide at the SCG, they won by 2 points when a shot for goal after the final siren fell just short.

The previous time was in 2018 (23-point loss).

History means nothing because both teams start the game with the same score.

Anyone who still wants to dabble in history should remember this history.

2012:
* Adelaide vs Sydney 2012 QF: Sydney 11.5 (71) defeated Adelaide 5.12 (42). Sydney's previous 14 games against Adelaide were 2 wins and 12 losses going back 10 years.
* Sydney vs Collingwood 2012 PF: Sydney 13.18 (96) defeated Collingwood 10.10 (70). Sydney's 11 previous games against Collingwood were all losses.

2024:
* Sydney vs GWS 2024 QF: Sydney 13.10 (88) defeated GWS Giants 12.10 (80). Sydney's previous 3 finals against GWS were all losses.

If it's time, it's time. And if we don't win, well it wasn't time.

Agree, history means nothing.

This year if we bring our best for 4 qtrs, head to head no one gets near us. Never been able to say that before, normally about what the other teams has or is doing, not this year. Our best is better than anyone's, just need to bring it.

[redstarforever]

We have lost the last 8 games v Port and 3 of those were at home ? hope they bring Fox in for Mills and Luke Parker to replace BC as sub

no one keeps winning its our turn to snap em

[neilfws]

This year if we bring our best for 4 qtrs, head to head no one gets near us. Never been able to say that before, normally about what the other teams has or is doing, not this year. Our best is better than anyone's, just need to bring it.

Agreed! Port are obviously a strong team and will be up and about after their win. I'm hoping the Swans will come out with a Geelong-style "let's smash 'em" mentality, go hard from the outset, just get it done.

[dejavoodoo44]

I just noticed the odds for the game and they surprised me. We're $1.34 and Port are $3.30. While I think we possibly should be favourites, the recent 122 point loss means that I don't a $1.34 level of confidence.

[KTigers]

I usually think the odds are a reflection of what bets have been placed and bookmakers trying to entice people to place more bets so that they can make
more money. My confidence comes from the fact that I think our best is better than Port's best. We just need to "show up" and we should win. Home
ground advantage and bit of Craig McRae's ump / crowd affirmation (if it works north of the border) won't hurt us either.

[Meg]

“So what’s the secret behind Port’s 8-0 streak? The secret is that there is no secret: it seems to be just one of those sporting trends that unfolds without rhyme or reason.

As they say in the superannuation ads, past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Indeed, there are probably no teams in the competition this year with as big a gap between their best and worst than Sydney and Port Adelaide.”

[SwanSand]

Even though the past games results are no certainty for the future, the one thing that is constant in the last 8 games unfortunately are the 2 head coaches. Longmire hasn't been able to get one past them over last 8 years and that worries me. Does Ken know the trick and can he just rally his troops to get another one on us? I am sure he is using the us vs them mentality (here them includes the entire AFL fraternity - AFL, media other teams etc etc) and fuelling the players to get through to the GF. Hope we keep our heads both before and in the game and dont give them any fuel to light up a fire.

[KTigers]

Not sure Collingwood's 11 game or whatever it was at the time winning streak against us helped them in the 2012 Prelim. Didn't seem to slow down Lewis Jetta's
90m run with the ball before slotting it....

[dejavoodoo44]

“So what’s the secret behind Port’s 8-0 streak? The secret is that there is no secret: it seems to be just one of those sporting trends that unfolds without rhyme or reason.

As they say in the superannuation ads, past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Indeed, there are probably no teams in the competition this year with as big a gap between their best and worst than Sydney and Port Adelaide.”

It's a bit strange that it has flipped with the Adelaide clubs. Before the Port streak started, we used to beat them pretty well all the time, but lose to the Crows: no matter what the respective ladder positions were. Now we beat the Crows most of the time.

[Hotpotato]

Swans will be way more prepped for two hours of hard gut
running than Port . They only just got home in a bruising encounter w the Hawks. They are on the road again in weird beds and play late in the dark (most people in Adelaide are in bed by 7.40pm).
Forget history, this will be romp.

[stevoswan]

Swans will be way more prepped for two hours of hard gut
running than Port . They only just got home in a bruising encounter w the Hawks. They are on the road again in weird beds and play late in the dark (most people in Adelaide are in bed by 7.40pm).
Forget history, this will be romp.

Hope you're right.....and I do get a feeling the Swans will be primed to defy recent 'history' in a convincing way. The 2022 GF flogging should hold them in good stead as a learning moment and motivation tool.