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  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    Goodes Racist.

    Goodes racist, says AFL historian

    SYDNEY Swans star Adam Goodes has been branded a racist by AFL historian Gillian Hibbins, for claiming indigenous players are "born to play". Hibbins recently labelled the connection between the national game and Marn Grook a "seductive myth".

    But Goodes said of Marn Grook - a Gunditjmara word meaning "game ball": "I believe in the connection".
  • Legs Akimbo
    Grand Poobah
    • Apr 2005
    • 2809

    #2
    Weird.

    Goodes's theory on aboriginal inherited behavioural adaptation to playing footy is as fanciful as this so called 'historian's' view that his comments are racist. I find them fancifully endearing.
    He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      #3
      Disgusting Adam.

      You should be suspended for a year for this outrageous claim.

      I am ashamed to support the swans today.



      Seriously though -can't wait for the game so we can talk about football again.
      -

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #4
        I think he deserves to be booed by his home crowd, instead of the opposition as normal.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          It's as racist as any other claim about a racial group.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Legs Akimbo
            Grand Poobah
            • Apr 2005
            • 2809

            #6
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            It's as racist as any other claim about a racial group.
            I think he's just saying indiginous australians are good at footy, something supported by the disproportionate % of aboriginal players on the AFL roster vis their population incidence.

            It's not like he's a talking about eugenics and the master race.
            He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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            • CJK
              Human
              • Apr 2006
              • 2170

              #7
              Originally posted by ScottH
              I think he deserves to be booed by his home crowd, instead of the opposition as normal.
              Racist.
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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                I think he's just saying indiginous australians are good at footy, something supported by the disproportionate % of aboriginal players on the AFL roster vis their population incidence.

                It's not like he's a talking about eugenics and the master race.
                But if you make a claim that Aborigines are not good at the defensive aspect of the game you are accused of being racist, despite most Aborigines being attacking rather than defensive players.

                I don't think he's being racist either. I think Aborigines are very good at football. I also think you can make some distinctions in certain areas, mainly sport, reflecting racial differences. However, it's okay if you are saying something positive but not okay if you are saying something negative.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • ROK Lobster
                  RWO Life Member
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 8658

                  #9
                  If Nick Davis was Aboriginal he would be loved as a player.

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                  • BloodNut
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 97

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                    If Nick Davis was Aboriginal he would be loved as a player.
                    Enough with Nick Davis already. It's getting rather boring now.

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                    • Industrial Fan
                      Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 3317

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                      If Nick Davis was Aboriginal he would be loved as a player.
                      Probably true.

                      At the same time, a lot of Aboriginal players over come adversity to make it to the big stage. I'm not sure Nick has even overcome the adversity that is KFC. Hardly endearing.
                      He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                      • Plugger46
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 3674

                        #12
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        But if you make a claim that Aborigines are not good at the defensive aspect of the game you are accused of being racist, despite most Aborigines being attacking rather than defensive players.

                        I don't think he's being racist either. I think Aborigines are very good at football. I also think you can make some distinctions in certain areas, mainly sport, reflecting racial differences. However, it's okay if you are saying something positive but not okay if you are saying something negative.
                        Agree entirely.
                        Bloods

                        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                        • ROK Lobster
                          RWO Life Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 8658

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BloodNut
                          Enough with Nick Davis already. It's getting rather boring now.
                          It's not about Davis, it's about perception of Aboriginal players.

                          (I am truly flattered though that you try to respond to each of my posts. Are you still having fun, how long is it (and how many user names have you been through) since you procliamed that you would hound me from the forum?)

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                          • ROK Lobster
                            RWO Life Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 8658

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Marry me Goodes
                            Probably true.

                            At the same time, a lot of Aboriginal players over come adversity to make it to the big stage. I'm not sure Nick has even overcome the adversity that is KFC. Hardly endearing.
                            Nick's dad has been a bit of a burden to overcome.

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                            • ScottH
                              It's Goodes to cheer!!
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 23665

                              #15
                              As good as most indigenous players are, they tend to go "missing" during parts of the season. (See Goodes 1st 1/2 of season last year.)

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