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  • Robbo
    On the Rookie List
    • May 2007
    • 2946

    #16
    He hasn't come on at all in the last 2 years. Very disspointing indeed. Shouldn't be in the side IMO.

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    • BSA5
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2008
      • 2522

      #17
      At his best, is well within our best 22, and does his job. Out of form, probably needs a spell in the reserves, and a long chat with some of his fellow players, in order to get his confidence back. No way should we trade him, unless we can get a 2nd round pick for him. I would find that hard to turn down. Perhaps Carlton, who sort of need a tagger and a big tough body, especially one with finals experience, and who have plenty of young players (and as such could afford to give up a 2nd rounder), would be interested. Merely speculation though. I don't think we should trade Ablett unless we genuinely think his career will flourish elsewhere anyway. He has given too much to this club to be thrown out like so much meat.
      Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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      • reigning premier
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Sep 2006
        • 4335

        #18
        Football is all about putting the best 22 from your list on the park. Unfortunately, atm, Luke Ablett is not in that best 22. Mind you, he 's not alone in being selected and not in the best 22 we could possibly field on any given weekend.

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #19
          Kick it to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
          Same old. Same old.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • swansrule100
            The quarterback
            • May 2004
            • 4538

            #20
            Originally posted by Nico
            He actually played forward pocket for some time last night. He has not the speed of foot or mind to be a crumbing forward. He played behind and gave away a ludicrous free playing behind a pack of 5 and pushed a player in the back when he was never in the contest. He didn't have the presence of mind to wait at the back of the pack for the spill. For mine his kick out on the full was the genuine highlight of his game he was that bad.
            yeh but i said we could develop him into the role possibly. He is a decent shot for goal, not too bad a mark, if was forced to concentrate on that sort of role who knows

            either way he is safe at the swans they wont delist him
            Theres not much left to say

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            • Jeffers1984
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4564

              #21
              Originally posted by swansrule100
              yeh but i said we could develop him into the role possibly. He is a decent shot for goal, not too bad a mark, if was forced to concentrate on that sort of role who knows

              either way he is safe at the swans they wont delist him
              Sorry swansrule but i highly disagree with you about him being a decent shot for goal. He is a DIABOLICAL set shot for goal. Probably on par with Brennan. Heck i'd back LRT from a slight angle 40 metres from goal then NOG.

              In his warm ups he hooks all of his practice shots for goal and 9/10 he'll do the same in a real game situation.
              Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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              • reigning premier
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2006
                • 4335

                #22
                Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                Sorry swansrule but i highly disagree with you about him being a decent shot for goal. He is a DIABOLICAL set shot for goal. Probably on par with Brennan. Heck i'd back LRT from a slight angle 40 metres from goal then NOG.

                In his warm ups he hooks all of his practice shots for goal and 9/10 he'll do the same in a real game situation.

                Hold the phone. Are you saying he DOES practice then?

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                • swansrule100
                  The quarterback
                  • May 2004
                  • 4538

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jeffers1984
                  Sorry swansrule but i highly disagree with you about him being a decent shot for goal. He is a DIABOLICAL set shot for goal. Probably on par with Brennan. Heck i'd back LRT from a slight angle 40 metres from goal then NOG.

                  In his warm ups he hooks all of his practice shots for goal and 9/10 he'll do the same in a real game situation.
                  by decent i meant more that he can kick a pretty good distance 31 goals 41 in his career, ive seen worse.

                  But i meant it would take a lot of work was just throwing up options rather than arguing it was what should happen.

                  I just want to see some change in his role so he can contribute to the side
                  Theres not much left to say

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                    NOG's problem is that after threatening for several years to become a good player, he has just not come on. There is no aspect of his game that you would describe as a strength. He has a powerful kick but seldom kicks to advantage. He is strong but falls over too often. He has stamina, but too often, his opponent runs off him.

                    If he is going to be retained on the list, he needs to work harder on his game and improve all aspects by at least 10%. Keeping his feet is the best place to start.
                    Fully agree with your assessment. I really like NOG as a Mathews-like good team player, but with his sort of skills, as you have mentioned, the Geelong type run and carry, high-skilled game, is just not suited to his best attributes (as is the case with Benny). I definitely think we should trade him for whatever we can get. I just can't see him getting a game next year with the sort of talent we have coming up.

                    Nearly certain to be dropped this week, and maybe for the rest of the season, which is not that long anyway.
                    Last edited by Ludwig; 19 August 2008, 06:49 PM.

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                    • eggbeater
                      Left Right Out
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 229

                      #25
                      Will Geelong want him. Heck lets just give him away for free.

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                      • SimonH
                        Salt future's rising
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 1647

                        #26
                        Not terribly likely to be tradeable (and certainly not tradeable to Geelong-- we might as well try to sell them Playfair), so for NOG it's a question of 'keep or dump?'

                        With the noises that Roos is making about bringing back Vespa and Jack, NOG isn't likely to play this week. Which will probably mean that barring further injury to others he won't play for us again in 2008.

                        He will probably be kept, but one of those that we should probably make the tough call on. Particularly if the powers-that-be are bullish enough about Smith and O'Dwyer's prospects to promote them to the senior list.

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                        • ShockOfHair
                          One Man Out
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3668

                          #27
                          In his defence, he is out of form, and so is about half the team.

                          But he's diabolically slow for a midfielder. With B1 and Kirkie already in the midfield, someone has to make way for legspeed.

                          THe cliche is that theoretically everyone's tradebait. In NOG's case it's probably more than theoretical.
                          The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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