Mega merged trading thread

[Matt79]

Planning for 2012 begins now...

Farewell Kennelly, C.Bolton, Bradshaw
Welcome Mitchell

Please discuss any trade news and list movement here...

[toothy76]

Brian Lake

[HBAsyd]

Jesse White has to go!

[gazza]

likely delist candidates bevan,currie,meredith,sumner,moore,tdl

[707]

Hey guys, we are already three down and after Tom Mitchell we'll have National Draft picks around 42, 59, 76 so I can't see us offloading too many unless we have our eyes on some cheap players or intend to promote a couple.

Sumner's situation is interesting and TDL has too much natural ability to be jetisoned just yet.

Not a good time to be making a lot of changes but we are in a better position than quite a few other clubs as we appear to have some good talent coming through and Mitchell for Pick 20 is a steal.

[aardvark]

I still reckon Mal might retire...........pure speculation on my part though........

[i'm-uninformed2]

I still reckon Mal might retire...........pure speculation on my part though........

Good call. I fear his body is starting to resemble Charlie sheen after a week in Colombia with his myriad girlfriends

[alison.z]

Can't see a lot of movement this off season with all the GWS concessions and our commitment to Mitchell ... I also think we have so much talent on our list and we're just starting to get everything together. Give Spangher, White and Reid a pre season to figure each other out and take the best youngsters in the draft and I think we're set for a great 2012!

[ugg]

We've traded in or picked a player from another club since Roos' reign except for one year.

2002 - Craig Bolton
2003 - redrafted Amon Buchanan, does that count?
2004 - Darren Jolly, David Spriggs
2005 - Paul Chambers, Ted Richards
2006 - Peter Everitt
2007 - Marty Mattner, Henry Playfair
2008 - Rhyce Shaw
2009 - Daniel Bradshaw, Josh Kennedy, Ben McGlynn, Shane Mumford, Mark Seaby
2010 - Andrejs Everitt, Matt Spangher
2011 - ???

[aardvark]

Hopefully they will ditch the absurd sub rule and Pyke /Seaby will have a role next year.

[SwansFan1972]

2011 - ???

someone mentioned Lake earlier - and he is sure peeved at the Dogs' handling of him this year - but he's got a dodgy bod and is on the wrong side of 30. We would have to be thinking a flag is 1-2 years away rather than 3-4.

Should be looking to work something with Rossy Lyon at Freo - they have a bit of quality across their list and he owes us one for the dempster/schneider gift he picked up from us. Only problem might be that he doesn't care so much about that now!

Carlton have some decent small crumbing forwards - hard to see us plucking one of them out, but never know.

Firrito from North seems to be a goer, but was not perhaps as good this year as in more recent ones. Might be looking for a freshen up.

Not much at Melbourne, Adelaide or Port to get excited about - and each of them will keep their best as far as they are able.

Clint Jones from St Kilda would be a good pick up. Not likely to be available though.

Hopefully there is a gem out there somewhere struggling to get a gig at their club who can flourish if we can grab him.

[SwansFan1972]

Hopefully they will ditch the absurd sub rule and Pyke /Seaby will have a role next year.

+1

Ruckmen should collectively sue the AFL for discrimination. Four on the bench plus a sub would at least give second ruckmen some hope. Only problem is that represents an extra 18 players across the league, when two new clubs will have come on board in two seasons. Where all these extra players will come from is a problem.

[top40]

Hey guys, we are already three down and after Tom Mitchell we'll have National Draft picks around 42, 59, 76 so I can't see us offloading too many unless we have our eyes on some cheap players or intend to promote a couple.

Sumner's situation is interesting and TDL has too much natural ability to be jetisoned just yet.

Not a good time to be making a lot of changes but we are in a better position than quite a few other clubs as we appear to have some good talent coming through and Mitchell for Pick 20 is a steal.

There are two key reasons why a large number of delistings is not a viable option this year. First there are already 3 (C. Bolton, Bradshaw, Kennelly) retirees and a likely 4th (Sumner). Second, the draft picks are low due mainly to GWS. The question remains: what to do with middle aged players like Moore, Bevan, and Seaby, who can't make the current 22. Particularly in regard to the former two, are they good enough to be trade baits?

[ernie koala]

Our needs start with a big physical full forward who can offer a real target/ contest.
White has failed to produce and should go.
Brian Lake could do this role and should be looked at, IMO.

[dimelb]

Hopefully they will ditch the absurd sub rule and Pyke /Seaby will have a role next year.

Not going to happen. I think our best option in this area is to continue putting work into Pykey to replicate the kind of options we can see in West Coast and, let it be said after last night, Hawthorn. Mummy had it all over Hale and Bailey but he needs better support than Jesse can give, and Big Mike will make a very useful marking target down forward.
The other thing is the midfield.Hanners was carrying his shoulder and Parker probably should have started, Jack is still getting back into the thick of things and Macca was up and down, but we were beaten by a better outfit last night. We can do better with the personnel we have but my impression is we need to do something about the drop-off in intensity and do more to develop our outside game: we looked vulnerable when the game opened up. Another running mid is what we need.