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  • Ruck'n'Roll
    Ego alta, ergo ictus
    • Nov 2003
    • 3990

    #16
    Originally posted by stellation
    I have to disagree with recruiting, I think so far it's been extremely intelligent.
    It will take a long while before it becomes obvious whether McKenna's greater focus on mature/middle aged players (Ablett, Brennan, Brown, Rischitelli, Bock, Iles) will work better that Sheedy's focus on Youth (Davis, Ward, Palmer, Scully) and Pensioners (Bogan, Cornes, McDonald).

    My impression this year was that the Suns looked like kids playing men this year, so at least in the short term (and with less hard bodies). I feel confident that there will be some horrendous thashings headed the Giants way.

    More hyperthically, I wonder whether GWS will end up with greater salary cap preassure down the road, the result of having an even greater % of players all of a similar age than the Suns?

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    • Bas
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4457

      #17
      Originally posted by Kirkari
      I read somewhere that Scully's salary is being included in TPPs, just to make it even stranger.

      Are the Swans looking at Mitchell Snr for that role?


      Rumour has it he was flogging non sanctioned AFL Desert boots out the back of Rooty Hill RSL. A giant deal which was to include Lumber Jackets in the cooler months. Damn missed out again!!!

      I'm sure there was more to the story than we will ever know.

      I know for fact that Mr Sheedy is not seen around Blacktown Olympic Park very often. Mark William's is the real coach.
      In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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      • jono2707
        Goes up to 11
        • Oct 2007
        • 3326

        #18
        Originally posted by Bas
        I know for fact that Mr Sheedy is not seen around Blacktown Olympic Park very often. Mark William's is the real coach.
        Shows just how stupidly run this whole thing is - Sheeds is past it. I've had to question his sanity a few times when I've heard him being interviewed. If this is the case, and Sheeds is just some sort of a strange figurehead, this could really backfire badly. I'd be guessing a bit here, but I wouldn't think the people in the western suburbs would take too well to this sort of stuff - their bullsh** detectors are generally pretty finely tuned, especially to outsiders such as this mob from the AFL who think they can waltz in and take over. Would be interesting if the details of Sheed's true level of involvment gets out....

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        • Bas
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          • Jan 2003
          • 4457

          #19
          I actually think its better that Mark Williams is the main coach. I'm assuming Kevin probably has a role similar to Bomber Thompson over at Essendon.

          Kevin Sheedy is the master salesman and they couldn't of picked a better person for the job. He didn't coach Essendon for 23 years or so because he lacked talent in many areas. It was always the players fault and he never let any of the mud stick on him.

          So while Kevin sells, Williams can focus on coaching the team. I honestly don't think people out west would notice the difference really.

          In many ways it's very clever and is it that much different to when Barassi took over Sydney?. Except he didn't have such a skilled assistant I don't think.

          I just don't think Mark Williams is being given the credit that that he deserves.
          In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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          • Damien
            Living in 2005
            • Jan 2003
            • 3713

            #20
            Agreed Bas, Sheedy was the perfect choice as foundation coach, as is Mark Williams for his Senior Asst and then (no doubt) as their long term coach. (I think people forget he is a very successful Premiership coach!)

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            • 0918330512
              Senior Player
              • Sep 2011
              • 1654

              #21
              Originally posted by Damien
              Agreed Bas, Sheedy was the perfect choice as foundation coach, as is Mark Williams for his Senior Asst and then (no doubt) as their long term coach. (I think people forget he is a very successful Premiership coach!)
              Allan Scott, you were WRONG!!

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              • jono2707
                Goes up to 11
                • Oct 2007
                • 3326

                #22
                Originally posted by Damien
                Agreed Bas, Sheedy was the perfect choice as foundation coach, as is Mark Williams for his Senior Asst and then (no doubt) as their long term coach. (I think people forget he is a very successful Premiership coach!)
                I think Mark Williams is/was a very, very good coach. I know Sheeds was a great coach in his day. I also think its a bad idea to tell the world that one person is the coach when in reality its someone else. Obviously the AFL/GWS think that getting headlines and press from Sheeds is more important but who would want to support a team that operates like this?

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                • Damien
                  Living in 2005
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3713

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jono2707
                  I think Mark Williams is/was a very, very good coach. I know Sheeds was a great coach in his day. I also think its a bad idea to tell the world that one person is the coach when in reality its someone else. Obviously the AFL/GWS think that getting headlines and press from Sheeds is more important but who would want to support a team that operates like this?
                  Yeah but we don't know anything for certain, I'm not defending GWS, I can't stand them, but 'head coach' can mean anyting these days, so whatever they have set up is up to them to make work. Heck, they have appointed a coach for every blade of grass growing out of the Westpac Centre garden to assist Nathan Buckley!

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                  • unconfuseme
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 681

                    #24
                    AMAZING! ... that it took so long ... any other corporate that was run along these lines would have run out of money long ago (or been sold for a billion to Allan Bond)!

                    When you arrange it so that you oversee the application process, and then ensure that you are the only applicant, chances are you don't get a great outcome, and you can only hide it for so long!

                    Congrats GWS, maybe now you will listen to the stakeholders ... the only way is up from here!

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15970

                      #25
                      Nice work if you can get it, and you can get it if you're son is a No 1 draft pick and you try.

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                      • Kirkari
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1036

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
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                        More hyperthically, I wonder whether GWS will end up with greater salary cap preassure down the road, the result of having an even greater % of players all of a similar age than the Suns?
                        I would think they'll use them as trading currency as and when their value rises. It will be interesting to see how their "culture" develops, but I will not be shocked if it's club/franchise/dollars first and foremost, and individual's interests and preferences very, very, very far behind. Though I also think some of those young 'uns who've joined GWS will be hoping to have a couple of good seasons, make some big bucks, play plenty of games and then get a trade somewhere better. So maybe it will be win-win...
                        Superman still wears Brett Kirk Pyjamas

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