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  • Danzar
    I'm doing ok right now, thanks
    • Jun 2006
    • 2027

    Brace yourselves for yet another piece of junk journalism on academies, COLA & Mills

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    The wrongs in this piece of @@@@ article are piling up in front of me. Top of the pile is the simple fact that without the Swans academy, there would have been no Callum Mills playing AFL, period, with any club, period.
    Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector
  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    #2
    I stopped at the "cash of living allowance".
    If he can't even get that right, the rest of the article is very wrong.
    Dickhead.

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    Wasn't the 2009 draft seven years ago?
    The game has changed A LOT over this time.
    Dickhead with NO idea.

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    Its RHYCE Shaw.
    Not Rhys.
    You think he or an editor would check these things.
    Trifecta... dickhead.

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    Who is Brett Geeves?
    Retired cricket player.
    Such credibility.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • Danzar
      I'm doing ok right now, thanks
      • Jun 2006
      • 2027

      #3
      Hah hah! So you didn't stop at Cash of Living Allowance? Anyway, gotto go. Off to the supermarket to buy a packet of microwave popcorn, after which I'll login into Twitter and enjoy the show.
      Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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      • dejavoodoo44
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        • Apr 2015
        • 8492

        #4
        Originally posted by Danzar
        Home | Live Scores & Latest News | Fox Sports

        The wrongs in this piece of @@@@ article are piling up in front of me. Top of the pile is the simple fact that without the Swans academy, there would have been no Callum Mills playing AFL, period, with any club, period.
        Yes, pathetic writing: I wouldn't even call it journalism. Though interestingly, I clicked on the comments section, expecting to see a collection of frothing at the mouth and conformist statements of agreement, but instead, it was full of people using rational argument to take him to task. Quite a pleasant surprise.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8149

          #5
          Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
          Yes, pathetic writing: I wouldn't even call it journalism. Though interestingly, I clicked on the comments section, expecting to see a collection of frothing at the mouth and conformist statements of agreement, but instead, it was full of people using rational argument to take him to task. Quite a pleasant surprise.
          Absolute click bait article trying to drum up anti swans sentiment - no suprise there.

          Also no suprise the author has no idea about afl - after all he is a former mediocre tasmanian cricketer employed solely by fox sports to write absolute nonsene like that article.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • Untamed Snark
            Senior Player
            • Feb 2011
            • 1375

            #6
            Wow.
            Just wow, what a ridiculously snippy article
            Chillin' with the strange Quarks

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            • Danzar
              I'm doing ok right now, thanks
              • Jun 2006
              • 2027

              #7
              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
              Yes, pathetic writing: I wouldn't even call it journalism. Though interestingly, I clicked on the comments section, expecting to see a collection of frothing at the mouth and conformist statements of agreement, but instead, it was full of people using rational argument to take him to task. Quite a pleasant surprise.
              I think Annie needs to post her helpful, rational corrections in the comments section. Annie?
              Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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              • dejavoodoo44
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2015
                • 8492

                #8
                Originally posted by mcs
                Absolute click bait article trying to drum up anti swans sentiment - no suprise there.

                Also no suprise the author has no idea about afl - after all he is a former mediocre tasmanian cricketer employed solely by fox sports to write absolute nonsene like that article.
                Yes, and he probably has some sort of strange fantasy about becoming the next, Bolt, Devine or whatever. He certainly used the common hack tactic of whining about future criticism, before it had been made.

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                • crackedactor
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2012
                  • 919

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  Yes, pathetic writing: I wouldn't even call it journalism. Though interestingly, I clicked on the comments section, expecting to see a collection of frothing at the mouth and conformist statements of agreement, but instead, it was full of people using rational argument to take him to task. Quite a pleasant surprise.
                  What a disgraceful piece of journalism!!Who the @@@@@@@ IS THIS IDIOT.? Without the money, time and effort the Swans Academy put into Callum Mills, there would be no Callum Mills to play for your precious Brisbane or Melbourne. HE would be playing rugby!!

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    Yes, pathetic writing: I wouldn't even call it journalism. Though interestingly, I clicked on the comments section, expecting to see a collection of frothing at the mouth and conformist statements of agreement, but instead, it was full of people using rational argument to take him to task. Quite a pleasant surprise.
                    There are comments!!
                    I never got that far.

                    In for a penny, in for a pound Danzar.

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                    Originally posted by Danzar
                    I think Annie needs to post her helpful, rational corrections in the comments section. Annie?
                    As you wish.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • crackedactor
                      Regular in the Side
                      • May 2012
                      • 919

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Yes, and he probably has some sort of strange fantasy about becoming the next, Bolt, Devine or whatever. He certainly used the common hack tactic of whining about future criticism, before it had been made.
                      For the records , the following is from a Daily Telegraph post:

                      "Only a tiny handful of the current 650 academy members ? and 1500 who have been through the program ? will play the game at any decent level. Just a few athletic freaks will be transformed into AFL stars."

                      2 out of 1500, wow what a Big Advantage the Swans have!!!

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8492

                        #12
                        Originally posted by crackedactor
                        For the records , the following is from a Daily Telegraph post:

                        "Only a tiny handful of the current 650 academy members ? and 1500 who have been through the program ? will play the game at any decent level. Just a few athletic freaks will be transformed into AFL stars."

                        2 out of 1500, wow what a Big Advantage the Swans have!!!
                        Yes, and if someone wanted to do some actual journalism, they could investigate the payments that fall outside the club's salary cap: additional services agreements and third party player agreements. Unless I'm doing an internet search in entirely the wrong place, it seems like pretty well nothing has been written on the issue since the Judd/Visy deal blew up back in 2012. It seems that the AFL doesn't even release a summary of what is being paid? It also seems that no journalist has even bothered to try and track down what is being paid. Which is a shame, since I suspect that it is an area that clubs in traditional areas would enjoy an advantage. But who knows without any figures to go on?
                        But it does seem like common sense, that if you're hiring an AFL player to represent your company, then the contracts would be higher in markets where players have the highest profile. And it's also not all that hard to imagine that in cities like Melbourne, where there is more traditional tribal fanaticism around AFL, then there would be more wealthy supporters prepared to dip into their companies finances, to ensure that their clubs star players remain a Hawk, Blue or a Pie.

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                        • 707
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          #13
                          Did he select 2009 because those draft picks in 2009 did next to nothing?

                          What would the 2008, 2010 or 2011 drafts provide by way of comparison?

                          If Mills was at Brisbane or Melbourne they wouldn't have Schache or Oliver either ...

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                          • Doctor
                            Bay 29
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 2757

                            #14
                            Don't let it get to you. It's just what he wants.
                            Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                            • southsideswan
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 237

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crackedactor
                              For the records , the following is from a Daily Telegraph post:

                              "Only a tiny handful of the current 650 academy members ? and 1500 who have been through the program ? will play the game at any decent level. Just a few athletic freaks will be transformed into AFL stars."

                              2 out of 1500, wow what a Big Advantage the Swans have!!!
                              We have a few guys in NEAFL that have gone through the academy but think in the current team are Heeney, Mills and Naismith.

                              I see COLA as a way of previously attracting players to Sydney. Sydney was deemed to be 14% more expensive to live in then Melbourne so each players received a 8+% top up administered by the AFL. Once we started to get a body of players from Sydney/NSW (I think it is about 11 out of 44) the AFL put restriction on the pay out ie only players earn certain amount a year received the allowance ($250,000 a year?).

                              The academy is financed by QBE and Swans. It is needed as unlike the situation in Melbourne, there is no elite programs for the young kids to attend such as Clubs and colleges. Without the academy the stock of players to fill local clubs would be of ever lower quality. It is there to also build the game in a non traditional area.

                              We gain a player benefit from the academy as do Melbourne clubs from being in Melbourne. Josh Dunkley appears to be a Melbourne boy whose first preference was Melbourne Club then next on list Sydney.

                              I personally think father/son rule is more unfair then the academy situation.

                              I'm sure some of my figures as stated above are abit out but known are close. Stand to be corrected.

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