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  • rb4x
    Regular in the Side
    • Dec 2007
    • 968

    Zak Jones cleared

    Great news from the MRP chook lotto. Zak has been cleared and is free to face Carlton. Not sufficient force in the impact to constitute a reportable offence.
  • mattybloods
    Warming the Bench
    • Jul 2016
    • 482

    #2
    Great news. Should never have been a report or 50m penalty

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    • 707
      Veterans List
      • Aug 2009
      • 6204

      #3
      Originally posted by mattybloods
      Great news. Should never have been a report or 50m penalty
      Just another umpiring error from Friday night!

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        #4
        Agree, a mark/free kick should have been the only result. No 50 metre penalty and no report should have been given.

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        • Levii3
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2015
          • 655

          #5
          Would have been better if he got fined and suspended now if he gets fined he'll miss a final.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16764

            #6
            Originally posted by Levii3
            Would have been better if he got fined and suspended now if he gets fined he'll miss a final.
            I've already pointed this out a couple of times, but at the risk of repeating myself, nothing changes. Even if he had received a third fine and been rubbed out for a week, he'd still have been at risk of being suspended for a week for any subsequent minor transgressions. I guess that by not playing next week he at least would have been safe for the first final, but once he was back, he could miss a later final (if we get that far).

            There is no "wiping clean" of the slate within a season. My understanding is that he'll start next season without the risk hanging over his head, though could still be susceptible to a "bad record loading" for an incident individually worthy of a week or more's suspension if he serves one further week (for a major or cumulative minor incidents.

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            • Levii3
              Regular in the Side
              • Jun 2015
              • 655

              #7
              Originally posted by liz
              I've already pointed this out a couple of times, but at the risk of repeating myself, nothing changes. Even if he had received a third fine and been rubbed out for a week, he'd still have been at risk of being suspended for a week for any subsequent minor transgressions. I guess that by not playing next week he at least would have been safe for the first final, but once he was back, he could miss a later final (if we get that far).

              There is no "wiping clean" of the slate within a season. My understanding is that he'll start next season without the risk hanging over his head, though could still be susceptible to a "bad record loading" for an incident individually worthy of a week or more's suspension if he serves one further week (for a major or cumulative minor incidents.
              During the whole Toby Greene thing this year it was mentioned that they take the last two years into account and if a player has been suspended for two matches of suspension the previous two years it counts as a bad record. He's already been suspended once that will carried to next year.

              He would be a huge loss if he gets suspended during finals

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              • Beerman
                Regular in the Side
                • Oct 2010
                • 823

                #8
                Originally posted by Meg
                Agree, a mark/free kick should have been the only result. No 50 metre penalty and no report should have been given.
                It was pretty late, and with no attempt to spoil. I'm ok with the 50 being payed in those circumstances. The idea that it was a suspension or fine is ridiculous though. Glad to see that MRP has some common sense.

                I thought Vince was a bit unlucky to be fined as well. On the slow motion it looked very bad, but at regular speed it looked like a fair attempt to spoil.

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Beerman
                  It was pretty late, and with no attempt to spoil. I'm ok with the 50 being payed in those circumstances.
                  Agreed. I would definitely be screaming "FIFTY" if someone hit one of our guys that late.
                  "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16764

                    #10
                    I agree it looked late, but it actually wasn't as the mark hadn't been completed.

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                    • crackedactor
                      Regular in the Side
                      • May 2012
                      • 919

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Meg
                      Agree, a mark/free kick should have been the only result. No 50 metre penalty and no report should have been given.
                      Tribunal thought the incident was minor. Should have maybe been a free kick, but our wonderful umpires gave a free kick and 50m, No such rule exist, however new type of rule they brought in, that only applies to Sydney swans!!!

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                      • Sandrevan
                        Warming the Bench
                        • May 2016
                        • 355

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RogueSwan
                        Agreed. I would definitely be screaming "FIFTY" if someone hit one of our guys that late.
                        In the first scoring shot in the 2016 gf Kieren Jack took a mark just inside the forward 50 and got cleaned up by Easton Wood. Wood was not in the marking contest and made no attempt to spoil. I was screaming 'FIFTY' but it was not paid.

                        Zaks effort on Friday night was in the same vain but he didn't hit Crouch that hard. To me, it was not a reportable offence and certainly not a 50 m penalty. Crouch missed the shot at goal and i thought 'that got what it deserved'. The crowd made a lot of noise when Zak ran into Crouch.

                        Who is umpiring this game? The umpire or the crowd?

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8555

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sandrevan
                          In the first scoring shot in the 2016 gf Kieren Jack took a mark just inside the forward 50 and got cleaned up by Easton Wood. Wood was not in the marking contest and made no attempt to spoil. I was screaming 'FIFTY' but it was not paid.

                          Zaks effort on Friday night was in the same vain but he didn't hit Crouch that hard. To me, it was not a reportable offence and certainly not a 50 m penalty. Crouch missed the shot at goal and i thought 'that got what it deserved'. The crowd made a lot of noise when Zak ran into Crouch.

                          Who is umpiring this game? The umpire or the crowd?
                          Well, in Adelaide and Perth, the crowds are essentially the umpires but unfortunately in Sydney and maybe Brisbane the crowds seem to have no say.......

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                          • dimelb
                            pr. dim-melb; m not f
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 6889

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sandrevan
                            In the first scoring shot in the 2016 gf Kieren Jack took a mark just inside the forward 50 and got cleaned up by Easton Wood. Wood was not in the marking contest and made no attempt to spoil. I was screaming 'FIFTY' but it was not paid.

                            Zaks effort on Friday night was in the same vain but he didn't hit Crouch that hard. To me, it was not a reportable offence and certainly not a 50 m penalty. Crouch missed the shot at goal and i thought 'that got what it deserved'. The crowd made a lot of noise when Zak ran into Crouch.

                            Who is umpiring this game? The umpire or the crowd?
                            And to add insult to injury (literally this time!) the same Easton Wood (sounds like a station on the London Underground) also cleaned up Hannebery with the same result from the umps.
                            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8555

                              #15
                              Love this picture.....the smile says it all.jones_mrp-smile.jpg "Go away sooks!"

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