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  • KSAS
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2018
    • 1768

    Swans chat How Buddy joined the Sydney Swans

    The HS are running 3 part (paywall) series detailing how Buddy came to us. Today is part 1 and Parts 2 & 3 will be published tomorrow and Friday respectively. We all know the story, but I found this interesting as it details all the secret meetings we had with Buddy and learnt more of the story that I hadn't known previously. I got sense just how well thought out and ahead of the curve the club were in securing Buddy. They were prepared for the huge backlash this was going to cause & how we wouldn't be viewed as a club the same again. Looking forward to parts 2 & 3.

    PART 1:
    Outline - Read & annotate without distractions
    Last edited by KSAS; 9 April 2019, 09:23 AM.
  • Hotpotato
    Senior Player
    • Jun 2014
    • 2261

    #2
    Captivating stuff, love moves mountains !
    Please send Parts II and III .

    Thank you.

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    • erica
      Happy and I know it
      • Jan 2008
      • 1247

      #3
      Ooh good story. Wonder why they are running it now, though?
      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #4
        Oh just brilliant!!
        I love Andrew Ireland almost as much as I love Dicky.
        Can't wait for the rest.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #5
          Buddy going from power club Hawthorn to power club Sydney soon after a flag is free agency working for the benefit of the competition.

          Lynch going from weak struggler Gold Coast to power club Richmond soon after a flag is free agency working against the benefit of the competition.

          Which one should be penalised ?

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          • Mark26
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2017
            • 1535

            #6
            Love this article. Can't wait for the next installments.

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              #7
              Originally posted by barry
              Buddy going from power club Hawthorn to power club Sydney soon after a flag is free agency working for the benefit of the competition.

              Lynch going from weak struggler Gold Coast to power club Richmond soon after a flag is free agency working against the benefit of the competition.

              Which one should be penalised ?
              Neither if they are within the rules, surely.

              You could argue Buddy going to the Swans prevented him going to struggler GWS.

              Fundamentally free agency works against equalisation because players don’t want to go to struggling clubs.

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              • swansrob
                Senior Player
                • May 2009
                • 1265

                #8
                Outline never works for me...

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                • KSAS
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 1768

                  #9
                  Originally posted by erica
                  Ooh good story. Wonder why they are running it now, though?
                  I thought the same. With the recent HS article on our 2 year trade ban now being seen as unjust (which wasn't at the time) and this Buddy article so far reflecting we were geniuses in how we got him (which was't at the time), I think the Melb media, Vic clubs & AFL HQ were just shocked and jealous which reflected their vindicative reactions. Sufficient time has now passed for the dust to settle a bit for the media to have a proper perspective of events. Though 6 years too late! OR they think we'll slide this year and setting us up for article later in the year with Buddy move being seen as a failure (no flag).
                  Last edited by KSAS; 9 April 2019, 12:26 PM.

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    Neither if they are within the rules, surely.

                    You could argue Buddy going to the Swans prevented him going to struggler GWS.

                    Fundamentally free agency works against equalisation because players don’t want to go to struggling clubs.
                    Unfortunately he may be at one now....

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      Neither if they are within the rules, surely.

                      You could argue Buddy going to the Swans prevented him going to struggler GWS.

                      Fundamentally free agency works against equalisation because players don’t want to go to struggling clubs.
                      you are right.

                      However we got penalised for both of our big recruits at the time.
                      1) Buddy = Trade ban.
                      2) Tippett = 11 round suspension. I cant see how its tippetts fault Adelaide hid his payments. He would have no idea what Adelaides TPP was.

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                      • Boddo
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 1049

                        #12
                        Originally posted by KSAS
                        I thought the same. With the recent HS article on our 2 year trade ban now being seen as unjust (which wasn't at the time) and this Buddy article so far reflecting we were geniuses in how we got him (which was't at the time), I think the Melb media, Vic clubs & AFL HQ were just shocked and jealous which reflected their vindicative reactions. Sufficient time has now passed for the dust to settle a bit for the media to have a proper perspective of events. Though 6 years too late! OR they think we'll slide this year and setting us up for article later in the year with Buddy move being seen as a failure (no flag).
                        Timing is everything. Just like politicians bad decisions no1 bats an eye lid when it comes out half a decade after the fact.

                        This, trade ban, tanking saga and in a few years it’ll be the doping saga. It’s almost like “let’s clear the slate to obsolve ourselves of the wrong doing” well done HS for this “scoop” ????

                        With the help of the Melbourne media they play everyone for fools.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #13
                          I thought Tippo was banned for tampering with the draft, because "Adelaide allegedly agreed to trade him to a club of his choice for a second-round draft pick - a massively lopsided arrangement - when the [his] contract finished at the end of 2012..."

                          Tippett said in a statement that he was "bitterly disappointed" with the outcome. "I trusted the Adelaide Football Club and for the duration of my contract I did my utmost for the club on and off the field," he said. "It is bitterly disappointing, then, to learn that my trust and best endeavours have been to my substantial detriment. Only during the recent AFL trade period did I learn that some terms in the Adelaide offer may have contravened AFL rules, and since that point I and all parties associated with me have cooperated fully with the AFL in its investigations."

                          Tippett, Crows found guilty over salary cap breach - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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                          • KTigers
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 2499

                            #14
                            So, in relation to Tippo ; If Adelaide were paying him the right amount, why did they have to hide it?
                            And if they weren't paying him the right amount (ie more than he was meant to get) did Tippo not know
                            he was getting paid additional money. Did he not notice additional money appearing in his bank account?
                            Reminds me of all those icons of rugby league down at the Melbourne Storm. What, none of them noticed
                            tens of thousands of dollars magically appearing in their bank accounts for no reason whatsoever....

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4040

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Boddo
                              Timing is everything. Just like politicians bad decisions no1 bats an eye lid when it comes out half a decade after the fact.

                              This, trade ban, tanking saga and in a few years it’ll be the doping saga. It’s almost like “let’s clear the slate to obsolve ourselves of the wrong doing” well done HS for this “scoop” ????

                              With the help of the Melbourne media they play everyone for fools.
                              And the average obsessed Vic footy fan laps it up.

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