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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #31
    I had a good optimistic feeling about dons and lolnorf games, but unfortunately I think we are going to get a towelling this weekend.

    Good weekend to go camping/sailing/any-where with a TV.

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    • Markwebbos
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      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #32
      Originally posted by barry
      I had a good optimistic feeling about dons and lolnorf games, but unfortunately I think we are going to get a towelling this weekend.
      I’ve lost count of the number of Swans games I’ve gone to expect a shellacking, including this game last year when the Swans somehow managed to conjure a win.

      Bookies have us at $3. It could get ugly but you’ve got to keep the faith.

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      • stevoswan
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        • Sep 2014
        • 8573

        #33
        Originally posted by Markwebbos
        I’ve lost count of the number of Swans games I’ve gone to expect a shellacking, including this game last year when the Swans somehow managed to conjure a win.

        Bookies have us at $3. It could get ugly but you’ve got to keep the faith.
        I prefer that attitude.....I certainly won't be going camping!

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        • longmile
          Crumber
          • Apr 2011
          • 3372

          #34
          Our team isn't so different to what it was last year where we managed to beat the pies in a thriller and beat west coast twice. I expect us to lose but be in it for most of the game

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          • Markwebbos
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            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #35
            Originally posted by longmile
            Our team isn't so different to what it was last year where we managed to beat the pies in a thriller and beat west coast twice. I expect us to lose but be in it for most of the game
            If Buddy (who kicked six last time) and Joey (only 21 possessions) make it back, then we will be similar but much less experienced, missing Newman, Macca, Alex Johnson, Cunningham, Smith, Robinson, Ronke and Jack from that side. That's 8 players out of 22. And I would guess over 1,000 games of experience missing.

            I still hope we can stay with them for most of the day. I hope they'll grow in confidence after the last 2 weeks.

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            • dejavoodoo44
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              • Apr 2015
              • 8727

              #36
              Originally posted by dimelb
              Not just you RnR, he looks more and more like the real deal. Size, pace, good hands, good kick, can bring others into play - let's just hope he can be injury-free.
              I've also been impressed by McCartin; mainly for his decision making. He seems to get to the right place, and if he doesn't take possession, he's really good at tapping the ball into a position that advantages a team mate. I also expect him to become a more formidable marking target, once he gains a bit more power.

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              • 707
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                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #37
                Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                I've also been impressed by McCartin; mainly for his decision making. He seems to get to the right place, and if he doesn't take possession, he's really good at tapping the ball into a position that advantages a team mate. I also expect him to become a more formidable marking target, once he gains a bit more power.
                He already is, taken a number ofclunkers against quality KPD the last two weeks. Tracking very nicely :-)

                With McCartin, Reid, Dawson and Blakey, we have some real targets, so many that our standard bomb it long forward to a contest may actually work!!

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                • Mel_C
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4470

                  #38
                  The last two weeks the pies have run away with the game in the last quarter. So we need to have a lead otherwise I fear it may be a painful result. We are a young side but we have passion and if we can get Buddy and Kennedy back then you never know!

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                  • dejavoodoo44
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                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8727

                    #39
                    Originally posted by 707
                    He already is, taken a number ofclunkers against quality KPD the last two weeks. Tracking very nicely :-)

                    With McCartin, Reid, Dawson and Blakey, we have some real targets, so many that our standard bomb it long forward to a contest may actually work!!
                    Yes, Dawson has surprised me a bit, with his ability to take strong contested marks. Heeney can also pluck one or two. Papley can also mop up the crumbs. Though I wouldn't mind if Ronke recaptured his form, in order to give some more crumbing assistance.

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                    • liz
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                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16786

                      #40
                      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                      Yes, Dawson has surprised me a bit, with his ability to take strong contested marks. Heeney can also pluck one or two. Papley can also mop up the crumbs. Though I wouldn't mind if Ronke recaptured his form, in order to give some more crumbing assistance.
                      Parker, Heeney, Hayward - all non-KPP height but capable of marking out of their height division.

                      I reckon we have a very talented collection of players to build a forward line around, including those who'll play up the ground and either rest in the forward line or run there from the midfield. They just need a little time to mature.

                      I do reckon, though, that even at their current level of inexperience, they'd be more effective if they didn't all clump together at a spot 20 or 30m out from goal, but learned to move around and spread the defenders out. I'd back all of them to win their fair share of one-on-one contested marks, but winning four-on-four contested marks consistently is a bit tougher.
                      Last edited by liz; 22 May 2019, 08:51 AM. Reason: typo

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                      • Auntie.Gerald
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 6483

                        #41
                        Agree Liz
                        But the zone defence does make it hard to chip around into the key areas

                        Would be nice to see us hybrid though in our entries
                        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                        • 707
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          #42
                          Originally posted by 707
                          He already is, taken a number ofclunkers against quality KPD the last two weeks. Tracking very nicely :-)

                          With McCartin, Reid, Dawson and Blakey, we have some real targets, so many that our standard bomb it long forward to a contest may actually work!!
                          Yes Liz, completely overlooked the marking capabilities of Heeney and Hayward both of whom consistently take great grabs.

                          Wonder if there's room for Buddy & Menzel now? :-)

                          Big test this week against a top team.

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                          • Bloods05
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1641

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                            Agree Liz
                            But the zone defence does make it hard to chip around into the key areas

                            Would be nice to see us hybrid though in our entries
                            Hybrid?

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                            • ernie koala
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2007
                              • 3251

                              #44
                              If Clarke stays in the team it must be as a tagger...His disposal and decision making demand it.

                              OUT : Jones, Rowbottom

                              IN : Kennedy, Franklin

                              If so, I hope they leave our forward line intact and play Buddy on the wing, given his magnificent field kicking.

                              If these 2 don't get up then bring in Rose and give Rowbottom another run.....Please not Jack.
                              Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                              • dejavoodoo44
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                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8727

                                #45
                                Originally posted by liz
                                Parker, Heeney, Hayward - all non-KPP height but capable of marking out of their height division.

                                I reckon we have a very talented collection of players to build a forward line around, including those who'll play up the ground and either rest in the forward line or run there from the midfield. They just need a little time to mature.

                                I do reckon, though, that even at their current level of inexperience, they'd be more effective if they didn't all clump together at a spot 20 or 30m out from goal, but learned to move around and spread the defenders out. I'd back all of them to win their fair share of one-on-one contested marks, but winning four-on-four contested marks consistently is a bit tougher.
                                Yes, I think that the young forwards will learn to spread more, with more experience. Thinking about it, I imagine that pretty well every medium to large bodied forward, that gets drafted, would've went through their junior years being the team's star forward. So, if an attack's starting, there's probably an optimum position for the star forward to get to. If this is the case, then most of our forwards will have similar habitual leading patterns. So, it may be a matter of them breaking habits and keeping in mind, that often you may be the second or third option, or even a decoy. Of course, if Buddy is on the field, it may be easier to learn, that you're not the first option.

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