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  • Markwebbos
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    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    Swans chat Changes for round 14 v Hawthorn

    There's some tough decisions to be made with so many players potentially available after the bye: Kennedy, Jones, Cunningham, Hayward and Fox. McVeigh out helps a little. I can see Menzel getting dropped again. I really can't see any of Clarke, Dawson, Florent etc making way.

    I suspect that at least one of these players won't be ready.

    IN: JPK, Jones, Cunningham, Hayward
    OUT: Rose, McVeigh, Menzel, Thurlow
  • barry
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    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #2
    You can almost put it down to paira of players fighting for same position.
    Hayward v menzel.
    McVeigh v Jones
    Cunningham v rose.
    Jpk comes in automatically, and probably thurlow or Clarke make way.

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    • Blood Fever
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      • Apr 2007
      • 4052

      #3
      Originally posted by barry
      You can almost put it down to paira of players fighting for same position.
      Hayward v menzel.
      McVeigh v Jones
      Cunningham v rose.
      Jpk comes in automatically, and probably thurlow or Clarke make way.
      McVeigh will be out injured I reckon. Sadly, I think he should give it away. Too risky now to select him

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      • Blood Fever
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        • Apr 2007
        • 4052

        #4
        [QUOTE=barry;777046]You can almost put it down to paira of players fighting for same position.
        Hayward v menzel.
        McVeigh v Jones
        Cunningham v rose.
        Jpk comes in automatically, and probably thurlow or Clarke make way.[/QUOTE

        Agree Thurlow goes and Oriordan stays. Jones in. Jpk in. Like to see Menzel stay. Clarke now important tagger. Hayward can have a run in the twos.before he gets back. Like to see Rose get another run. Useful, versatile game apart from one horrible changer.

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          #5
          Clarke's selection or otherwise is tricky. His disposal is just so poor, either missing the mark or putting a team mate under pressure. BUT he has a massive tank on him and is tagging really well. One area we really struggled was a good match up for Liam Ryan. Hawks have Puopulo and Wingard to contain so Cunningham is a must. I liked Menzel's game on the weekend and thought Rose was good enough to deserve another chance.
          Ins: JPK Cunningham
          Outs: McVeigh Thurlow

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          • Markwebbos
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            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #6
            Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
            Clarke's selection or otherwise is tricky. His disposal is just so poor, either missing the mark or putting a team mate under pressure. BUT he has a massive tank on him and is tagging really well. One area we really struggled was a good match up for Liam Ryan. Hawks have Puopulo and Wingard to contain so Cunningham is a must. I liked Menzel's game on the weekend and thought Rose was good enough to deserve another chance.
            Ins: JPK Cunningham
            Outs: McVeigh Thurlow
            Thought Clarke's disposal has improved significantly. His stats for the game say 95.5% disposal efficiency! Doesn't Wingard have a hamstring injury? One of the mercies of Macca being injured is he won't be (mis)matched up on Puopolo.

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            • 707
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              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              #7
              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
              Clarke's selection or otherwise is tricky. His disposal is just so poor, either missing the mark or putting a team mate under pressure. BUT he has a massive tank on him and is tagging really well. One area we really struggled was a good match up for Liam Ryan. Hawks have Puopulo and Wingard to contain so Cunningham is a must. I liked Menzel's game on the weekend and thought Rose was good enough to deserve another chance.
              Ins: JPK Cunningham
              Outs: McVeigh Thurlow
              You don't guard Puopolo, he's almost cooked and Wingard is out with a hammy.

              No way Clarke is demoted now he's found his role as an effective tagger, his disposal seemed much better on Sunday, he stays in for sure. O'Riordan also stays in.

              Thurlow and Menzel as last men in and neither reaching great heights Sunday are the ones under the pump. Doubt they'll bring back three from injury, JPK & Jones likely, Cunningham to come back via a run in the NEAFL, Macca unlikely to be available anyway.

              Edit: Just read your post Markwebbos, we're on the same page :-)

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              • barry
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                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #8
                I think a young team needs a tagger, so there is a strong reason to keep Clarke in.

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                • top40
                  Regular in the Side
                  • May 2007
                  • 933

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  There's some tough decisions to be made with so many players potentially available after the bye: Kennedy, Jones, Cunningham, Hayward and Fox. McVeigh out helps a little. I can see Menzel getting dropped again. I really can't see any of Clarke, Dawson, Florent etc making way.

                  I suspect that at least one of these players won't be ready.

                  IN: JPK, Jones, Cunningham, Hayward
                  OUT: Rose, McVeigh, Menzel, Thurlow
                  Not that I’m disagreeing with you here, but it’s interesting to reflect the Swans, 14th on the ladder, omitting three players after 45 point win over the reining premier who are also 4th on the ladder.

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                  • 707
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                    • Aug 2009
                    • 6204

                    #10
                    Originally posted by top40
                    Not that I’m disagreeing with you here, but it’s interesting to reflect the Swans, 14th on the ladder, omitting three players after 45 point win over the reining premier who are also 4th on the ladder.
                    Dropping players who only had modest input to the win and bringing in proven high production players strengthens the line up of course.

                    Still a couple of weeks away and maybe none of the injured are fit to be selected so then it's just finding a replacement for McVeigh.

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                    • caj23
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2462

                      #11
                      Clarke will almost certainly be tagging O'Meara or Henderson, he won't be playing NEAFL

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        #12
                        Jones in for McVeigh.

                        Kennedy in for Clarke.

                        Cunningham for Thurlow.

                        Menzel stays but will need a good game. Haywood to play reserves.

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                        • Blood Fever
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                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4052

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Jones in for McVeigh.

                          Kennedy in for Clarke.

                          Cunningham for Thurlow.

                          Menzel stays but will need a good game. Haywood to play reserves.
                          Given our improved form and method, Clarke is a lock.

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                          • aguy
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1324

                            #14
                            I think:

                            Jones In for McVeigh.
                            Kennedy In for thurlow.

                            Rose was good and deserves another game. MenZel was also good esp in the 2nd half and his skill and vision was important setting up goals.

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                            • 707
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 6204

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blood Fever
                              Given our improved form and method, Clarke is a lock.
                              Clarke has been very good the last month negating and in some cases completely shutting down the oppositions key mid, a vital role that makes him best 22 going forward. Do not underestimate the negating role in winning games, Cripps not shut down, Neale shut down, Blues shock win.

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