2020 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Auntie.Gerald]

Happy New Year everyone !

I was driving along today thinking that if I was head of recruitment at another club what would I be willing to trade for say Florent, Hayward, Stephens, McCartin etc .......ie the players we are pinning our hopes to ?

Dunkley didnt happen with Pick8 and a second rounder in 2021 to the Bombers.........Bulldogs wanted First round x 2 ie 2020 and 2021

Who in our team could command that same type of offer?

Id say not many? Maybe Parker or a Lloyd to a team like North or Suns etc? Or a Rampe to a Geelong if required for a Premiership chase?

Would any of our youth be seen as key players for opposition teams to bank their future on ?

Bombers did with Caldwell !!!!

The 20-year-old returned home to Victoria and joins the Bombers along with picks 44 and 74 in exchange for pick No.29 (received from Port Adelaide for Orazio Fantasia) and a future second-round selection.

The Bombers then on-traded pick No.74, along with pick No.67, to St Kilda in exchange for Nick Hind and pick No.77.

Taken at pick No.11 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft, Caldwell played 11 matches in two seasons at the Giants, making a name for himself as a strong contested ball-winning midfielder who is also damaging on the outside.

I just wonder whether we see our next batch with rose coloured glassed the last few years?

Is that partially true ?

[rojo]

Thanks for the info re Isaiah Olson dvd44 and Liz. The fact that Brandon featured him in an article along with Errol suggested that he must be a player of some potential or promise.

[dejavoodoo44]

I was about to post something pretty similar. I have a sneaky feeling he might even have played a couple of NEAFL games in his U16 year.

He's one I expect to be in the U19/development squad, though I don't know if that works the same going forward, given the U18 comp is now an U19 comp. Maybe more spots are available than in prior years, especially with scope to have another NEAFL support squad (that I expect may be a year or two older, on average).

I agree with you that Olsen probably didn't get enough of the ball to stamp himself as an AFL prospect, though I would make (and have made) a similar observation about Sheather at U18 and NEAFL level - some good stuff, some very good stuff, but generally not enough of it. I guess the smaller you are, the more you have to demonstrate you can already do in order to win a list spot.

Yes, I'm quite curious about the make up of our various squads. It seems that a few academy players, will have the chance to stay in the system a little bit longer. If some of them convert that chance to a list spot, then should encourage more kids to enter the system.

[liz]

I think he played a bit for our academy side, both in 2019 and the games against GWS last season. He may have also played as a toppie in the NEAFL, in 2019? Generally played small forward. Quite talented when he got the ball, but I don't think he got it enough, to be really considered as a draftee.

I was about to post something pretty similar. I have a sneaky feeling he might even have played a couple of NEAFL games in his U16 year.

He's one I expect to be in the U19/development squad, though I don't know if that works the same going forward, given the U18 comp is now an U19 comp. Maybe more spots are available than in prior years, especially with scope to have another NEAFL support squad (that I expect may be a year or two older, on average).

I agree with you that Olsen probably didn't get enough of the ball to stamp himself as an AFL prospect, though I would make (and have made) a similar observation about Sheather at U18 and NEAFL level - some good stuff, some very good stuff, but generally not enough of it. I guess the smaller you are, the more you have to demonstrate you can already do in order to win a list spot.

[dejavoodoo44]

This may be the wrong thread but does the name Isaiah Olsen ring a bell with anyone? I read an article written by Brandon Jack a couple of months back on the AFL Swans website in the Academy section telling the story of his close friendship with Errol Guldon. Evidently he and Errol became footy mates and close friends on the rise through the Academy age group ranks. I don't remember Isaiah being chosen for any under age representative teams so probably not likely to follow Errol and make it as a Swan? A player of similar size and attributes as Errol.

I think he played a bit for our academy side, both in 2019 and the games against GWS last season. He may have also played as a toppie in the NEAFL, in 2019? Generally played small forward. Quite talented when he got the ball, but I don't think he got it enough, to be really considered as a draftee.