The Money Kick (AFL360) and other indicators of winning

[Ludwig]

I wonder how many games have been lost to Mummification. It must be a big number. Went up by around 8 games with Hickey added to the tally.

Every game is a danger game when Mummy is playing. And it doesn't even matter whose side you're on.

[The Runner]

By making the GF in 2014 and 2016?

We got completely manhandled in 2014. We lost by 10 goals, and it's hard to argue that Mummy would have changed such a significant margin, against such a great team.
But, there was a moment when we were down by a goal in the first quarter, boundary throw in, our defensive 50. Roughead destroys Hannebry. Breaks him in half, and they kick a goal from it, and we get opened up from there.
I don't think that kind of moment happens in a team with Mummy. He was so physical, and brought players with him. We wouldn't have gotten to physically beaten up that day with him in the team.

[Blood Fever]

We got completely manhandled in 2014. We lost by 10 goals, and it's hard to argue that Mummy would have changed such a significant margin, against such a great team.
But, there was a moment when we were down by a goal in the first quarter, boundary throw in, our defensive 50. Roughead destroys Hannebry. Breaks him in half, and they kick a goal from it, and we get opened up from there.
I don't think that kind of moment happens in a team with Mummy. He was so physical, and brought players with him. We wouldn't have gotten to physically beaten up that day with him in the team.

Some truth in that. They physically hammered us including McEvoy belting Jetta. Mummy missed that day.

[KTigers]

I think both the Swans and GWS were/are better teams with Mummy than without him. He is an intimidating player and a lot more skilled than
he gets credit for. A pretty handy guy to have in your team.

[dejavoodoo44]

Every game is a danger game when Mummy is playing. And it doesn't even matter whose side you're on.

I don't know. I suspect that about 90% of his 'accidents' injure the opposition.

[Nico]

The Money Kick went missing on Saturday. We missed easy targets, had no daring and hit the opposition on the chest. Money kicks indeed, but who for?

[i'm-uninformed2]

Some truth in that. They physically hammered us including McEvoy belting Jetta. Mummy missed that day.

I don't like to think, speak, hear or post about the 2014 GF. But I'll say this: Mummy, god love him, would have made no difference THAT day.

Hawthorn produced one of the greatest, most complete games of AFL ever played.

Bar Buddy and Kennedy, we collectively browned our pants from the first minute.

Now, let's never speak of it again.

[barry]

I think both the Swans and GWS were/are better teams with Mummy than without him. He is an intimidating player and a lot more skilled than
he gets credit for. A pretty handy guy to have in your team.

Its his longevity thats they key. We had a dominant ruckman, and he's kicked on for almost 10 years after he left, while in the meantime the ruck has been a costly problem for us ever since.

Keeping Mummy would have allowed us to focus trading in other areas, may have seen us win 2016, and may have seen us stay in and around finals since.

[KTigers]

Re Mumford ; we'll never know what could have been. If he'd have stayed then maybe there would wouldn't have been the dollars to
pay Franklin. And with no Franklin, who knows if we'd even have made the 2016 GF. And re 2016 ; I think when you look at the margins
and the free kick counts, then the team that were really robbed were GWS in that prelim. Personally I believe we would have beaten
the Giants in the 2016 GF had we have played them. We would have re grouped after losing that first final at ANZ to them, and they
would have let off a bit, feeling that just making the GF in their fifth year was achievement enough.
Five years, multiple online posts, intensive counselling and quite a few drinks, I still haven't moved on. I should I suppose.

[longmile]

Five years, multiple online posts, intensive counselling and quite a few drinks, I still haven't moved on. I should I suppose.

Never forget. We were robbed.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

We got completely manhandled in 2014. We lost by 10 goals, and it's hard to argue that Mummy would have changed such a significant margin, against such a great team.

I'll happily argue that Mummy would have made a difference to the way the Hawks manhandled the Swans with impunity and out of that game.

At the very least I'd have been able to avoid typing the words "with impunity"
Leaving aside his limitations, Shane Mumford is absolutely the single greatest antidote to being manhandled that has played the game (in the 21st century).
Certainly the Hawks chief thugs in the 2014 GF were far more circumspect in 2012, even with Mummy off the ground.

As for not needing to write "out of that game" - maybe not,
It's absolutely possible that Mummies inclusion would not have changed the result - but it'd definitely have changed the nature of that result.
The 2014 grandfinal could have sat alongside the 1945 grandfinal - rather being being the abject humiliation that makes supporters like i'm-uninformed2 proclaim "I don't like to think, speak, hear or post about the 2014 GF."

[Blood Fever]

I'll happily argue that Mummy would have made a difference to the way the Hawks manhandled the Swans with impunity and out of that game.

At the very least I'd have been able to avoid typing the words "with impunity"
Leaving aside his limitations, Shane Mumford is absolutely the single greatest antidote to being manhandled that has played the game (in the 21st century).
Certainly the Hawks chief thugs in the 2014 GF were far more circumspect in 2012, even with Mummy off the ground.

As for not needing to write "out of that game" - maybe not,
It's absolutely possible that Mummies inclusion would not have changed the result - but it'd definitely have changed the nature of that result.
The 2014 grandfinal could have sat alongside the 1945 grandfinal - rather being being the abject humiliation that makes supporters like i'm-uninformed2 proclaim "I don't like to think, speak, hear or post about the 2014 GF."

Barry Hall a great deterrent as well during this century!

[barry]

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Five years, multiple online posts, intensive counselling and quite a few drinks, I still haven't moved on. I should I suppose.

None of us have.

A Swans v GWS Grand final would have been awesome on 2016.