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  • 0918330512
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2011
    • 1654

    Swans chat All Australian squad

    Disappointed Hickey didn’t make the AA squad. Slightly gutted Aliir did. Did we lose that ”trade”?

    Hickey can’t have too many more years left (his knee not withstanding). Aliir almost certainly does.

    We needed a ruckman. They needed a defender. But we could still use a tall rebounding defender who is an effective intercept mark … and will likely need a ruckman to replace Hickey sooner rather than later.

    Congrats to Buddy, Mills, Papley and Parker. Can’t see Bud making it to the final side tho
  • longmile
    Crumber
    • Apr 2011
    • 3360

    #2
    Suprised Buddy made the cut tbh. He's had a good year but I feel like he made it on past performance.

    Also Dawson was a bit hard done by. Has been more crucial to our team this year than arguably any other player, even the 4 that made the cut.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #3
      Originally posted by longmile
      Suprised Buddy made the cut tbh. He's had a good year but I feel like he made it on past performance.

      Also Dawson was a bit hard done by. Has been more crucial to our team this year than arguably any other player, even the 4 that made the cut.
      Agreed.

      Out: Franklin
      In: Dawson

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      • Bangalore Swans
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Mar 2021
        • 1049

        #4
        Originally posted by longmile
        Suprised Buddy made the cut tbh. He's had a good year but I feel like he made it on past performance.

        Also Dawson was a bit hard done by. Has been more crucial to our team this year than arguably any other player, even the 4 that made the cut.
        Magnificent post. I thought Dawson was very unlucky. Maybe the fact that he’s so versatile counts against him. I think he’s only played 8 or so games on a wing. If he played the whole year on the wing I think he will make AA.

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        • Doctor
          Bay 29
          • Sep 2003
          • 2757

          #5
          We definitely did not lose the trade. Much like Sinclair for Jetta, it worked out well for both teams. Our defence is doing just fine and it may well have been that Aliir's style doesn't suit ours. It's also fair to say that we would not be in finals without Hickey, so I think it's win-win. I agree that Hickey could have been in the AA squad, but it's tough when you have Gawn and Naitanui ahead of you.
          Today's a draft of your epitaph

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          • sharp9
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2508

            #6
            Gutted for my favourite player Jordan Dawson. Haven’t seen the actual squad yet but there will be less talented players who contributed less but come from Victoria. Also I really think that Tom Hickey did more this year than Nic Nat. Seriously I would be picking him if we were fielding an AA team in a real match
            "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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            • sharp9
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2508

              #7
              Hang the hell on a minute. Salem ahead of Lloyd, McInerny, Blakey and Dawson. Say what now???!!!???!!! Fritsch ahead of Heeney???? And Seedsman?!?!? Ahead of Dawson they can’t be serious. Sean Darcy OMG
              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                #8
                Originally posted by 09183305
                Disappointed Hickey didn’t make the AA squad. Slightly gutted Aliir did. Did we lose that ”trade”?

                Hickey can’t have too many more years left (his knee not withstanding). Aliir almost certainly does.

                We needed a ruckman. They needed a defender. But we could still use a tall rebounding defender who is an effective intercept mark … and will likely need a ruckman to replace Hickey sooner rather than later.

                Congrats to Buddy, Mills, Papley and Parker. Can’t see Bud making it to the final side tho
                Depends whether you break it down as two trades or one. If you think we traded Aliir for Hickey, then I don't think we lost. We needed a ruck more than we needed Aliir. Sure Hickey is old and a bit banged up but he's also been a complete revelation and made a massive difference to our team. And we still have one of the best defences in the competition even without Aliir (although we'd love to have him playing in his current form). However, if you break it down into two trades then Port won their trade with us and we won our trade with West Coast. Overall I'm happy to call it a win-win. Even West Coast didn't lose because they had more use for draft picks than Hickey given that NicNat has been fit and in outstanding form and they still have Vardy as a back up.
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                • Goal Sneak
                  Out of Bounds on the Full
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 653

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bloodspirit
                  Depends whether you break it down as two trades or one. If you think we traded Aliir for Hickey, then I don't think we lost. We needed a ruck more than we needed Aliir. Sure Hickey is old and a bit banged up but he's also been a complete revelation and made a massive difference to our team. And we still have one of the best defences in the competition even without Aliir (although we'd love to have him playing in his current form). However, if you break it down into two trades then Port won their trade with us and we won our trade with West Coast. Overall I'm happy to call it a win-win. Even West Coast didn't lose because they had more use for draft picks than Hickey given that NicNat has been fit and in outstanding form and they still have Vardy as a back up.
                  I like this perspective. Hickey this year has benefitted our team more than Allir would've. It's not certain Allir would've had the same type of standout year had he stayed anyway. We got what we desperately needed although we had to lose a club favourite. I've still really enjoyed seeing what Allir has done this year and now Hickey is fast becoming one of my favourite players.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 09183305
                    Disappointed Hickey didn’t make the AA squad. Slightly gutted Aliir did. Did we lose that ”trade”?

                    Hickey can’t have too many more years left (his knee not withstanding). Aliir almost certainly does.

                    We needed a ruckman. They needed a defender. But we could still use a tall rebounding defender who is an effective intercept mark … and will likely need a ruckman to replace Hickey sooner rather than later.
                    No doubt, Hickey has been a tremendous addition to the team, but as you say, it leaves us with a couple of spots to fill.

                    Harley mentioned on SEN today that Gould is going okay, but is learning to be a key defender. Brand has been a disappointment, but O'Connor could still be in the picture. It's hard to say due to the lack of regulation games the past 2 years. If we recruit Paddy McCartin, that might be good enough KPD depth going into next year.

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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 09183305
                      Disappointed Hickey didn’t make the AA squad. Slightly gutted Aliir did. Did we lose that ”trade”?

                      Hickey can’t have too many more years left (his knee not withstanding). Aliir almost certainly does.

                      We needed a ruckman. They needed a defender. But we could still use a tall rebounding defender who is an effective intercept mark … and will likely need a ruckman to replace Hickey sooner rather than later.

                      Congrats to Buddy, Mills, Papley and Parker. Can’t see Bud making it to the final side tho
                      Nick Blakey?

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                      • Goal Sneak
                        Out of Bounds on the Full
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 653

                        #12
                        No Swans predicted to make the final list according to the AFL.com reporters. No Aliir either.

                        There will be fresh faces galore when this year's Therabody AFL All-Australian side is revealed, according to our reporters

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8490

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Goal Sneak
                          No Swans predicted to make the final list according to the AFL.com reporters. No Aliir either.

                          https://www.afl.com.au/news/670221/w...-make-the-call
                          Which on one hand, is a bit of an insult, but on the other hand, is a compliment, because it suggests that we got where we are today through team work.

                          But still: Carlton 3; Swans 0???

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                          • 111431
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 697

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            Which on one hand, is a bit of an insult, but on the other hand, is a compliment, because it suggests that we got where we are today through team work.

                            But still: Carlton 3; Swans 0???
                            they are three pretty good players

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                            • liz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 111431
                              they are three pretty good players
                              Which shows what a rabble the rest of the team must be.

                              I'm a little surprised we had four in the squad. That reflects how, in most of our best wins, it's been really hard to find standout players or to find anyone who hasn't contributed.

                              Still, it would be nice if one squeezed into the final team. If one is to, it will probably be Franklin or Papley. The midfield is just too hard to break into. Their numbers stack up well against the competition (particularly on a per game average basis in Buddy's case). But they'll probably elect to stick a couple of midfielders at half-forward, thus pushing genuine forwards out of the team.

                              If Buddy were to make the team, it would be significant as he'd become the first player to make nine AA teams. They may be reluctant to do that for a season which puts him on the margin of selection, rather than being clear cut. On the other hand, it would be a good way to celebrate the milestone he's about to reach.

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