General off-season footy chat
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The AFL had pretty much "achieved" this outcome in the 80's, and it was a calamity for the league and the game as a whole. No business is capable of regulating itself, that's what government is for.Comment
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I think anyone who thinks there is much connection between the AFL & the EPL (other than the players in both leagues chase a ball around
whilst running on grass) needs to have their faculties checked out. But as we all know the Collingwood boardroom and the local mental
hospital have been indistinguishable for a long time.Comment
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Side note of interest…The AFL is the fourth highest attended sports league in the world.
1) NFL - average attendance 67,405
2) German Football League - 43,458
3) EPL - 38,168
4) AFL - 36,637
The NRL is 10,687!!! Also interesting is home many EPL teams have stadiums with capacity in low-mid twenties."I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005Comment
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EPL has a lot of clubs now with big stadiums however - Manchester United (76K) Tottenham (62K), West Ham (60K), Arsenal (60K) Manchester City (55K), Liverpool (54K), Newcastle (53K), which offsets some of the smaller clubs I guess.Side note of interest…The AFL is the fourth highest attended sports league in the world.
1) NFL - average attendance 67,405
2) German Football League - 43,458
3) EPL - 38,168
4) AFL - 36,637
The NRL is 10,687!!! Also interesting is home many EPL teams have stadiums with capacity in low-mid twenties."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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When you take into account the relative populations, the AFL is way ahead.Side note of interest…The AFL is the fourth highest attended sports league in the world.
1) NFL - average attendance 67,405
2) German Football League - 43,458
3) EPL - 38,168
4) AFL - 36,637
The NRL is 10,687!!! Also interesting is home many EPL teams have stadiums with capacity in low-mid twenties.Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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I think averages can be pretty deceiving when looking at these things. Looking at the relative size of each EPL team's stadiums, a huge disparity is apparent as newly promoted teams like Brentford have small stadiums. Median is probably better.Comment
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Not really. There is very little in it. England's population is 54 million, ours just under 26 million. You have to take into account that
there are 380 games in an EPL season (total attendance 14.5 million) and 198 in the AFL home-and-away season (total attendance
7.25 million). So basically England has double our population and double our total attendance at games. They are however better at
producing great rock bands than us, but our weather is better than theirs. Their rail network is better than ours but our beer tastes
better. Our golf courses and theirs are on par overall I would say. So it's a toss up really between the two countries in so many respects.Comment
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I'd suspect median for the EPL might still tell broadly the same story.
- 5 grounds < 30K
- 6 grounds 30K - 40K
- 2 grounds 40K - 50K
- 7 grounds >50K
Given they have such high average % attendances to capacity, then median likely to lie somewhere near the average capacity size."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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I just looked at the link below which lists all EPL grounds, ranked by crowd capacities. The median is Everton at just shy of 40,000.
Premier League Stadium Capacity 2021/22 - Sports Ball Blog
So our beloved game holds up well! Our ticket prices are much lower too as we sensibly have a salary cap of sorts and so our top players don't earn obscene amounts unlike soccer. Buddy at his highest earnt A$1.6 million, Lionel Messi at PSG is estimated to earn well over US$40 million this season and Ronaldo at Manchester United is on £26.5 million!
Lionel Messi PSG salary: How much does he make per hour, day, week, month, and year?Comment
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And they don’t even have to use their hands. They have one skill - kicking a round ball.So our beloved game holds up well! Our ticket prices are much lower too as we sensibly have a salary cap of sorts and so our top players don't earn obscene amounts unlike soccer. Buddy at his highest earnt A$1.6 million, Lionel Messi at PSG is estimated to earn well over US$40 million this season and Ronaldo at Manchester United is on £26.5 million.Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.Comment
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Sounds like he is trying to get ahead of his fear of failure. To even suggest McGuire on the AFL Board is tantamount to trying to rig the competition.Comment
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Its actually a very skilful game and includes heading as well. I think a lot of modern trends in AFL have borrowed from tactics used in topline soccer eg building a wall of defenders right out from the box who take away all of the space from attackers and adding outriders to bring the ball straight back in if defenders try to clear the ball. Sounds like Richmond and the Dees to me! We know coaches like Clarko have spent plenty of time studying these tactics and even spent their off-season visiting these fabled clubs. This cross-fertilisation of ideas and tactics across Codes will continue as things become more professional.Comment


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