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  • Bangalore Swans
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Mar 2021
    • 1049

    Swans chat BBBH

    Originally posted by wolftone57
    Look Bazza did a few naughty things. So, he was a naughty boy lol. But what a player. If they want someone to instil aggression, the aggression that wins premierships, I can think of nobody better. He is also a lovely bloke. So they get a bloke who was a star and a prize fighter as well as played the game really hard. He was the last of the hard men.

    So glad to hear he is back. He cried when he left the Swans. It was his home, his family. Now he returns to the fold, the prodigal son.

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    He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

    With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

    I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

    Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8161

    #2
    Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
    He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

    With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

    I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

    Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
    Is there anything with won't feint faux outrage with?
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • Goal Sneak
      Out of Bounds on the Full
      • Jun 2006
      • 653

      #3
      Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
      He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

      With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

      I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

      Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
      Barry was a champion but he also had a few flaws in his capacity to control his anger. I've got no problem with any one of his team mates calling out any crap of his. He lost the trust of the leadership group, they needed him to stay composed and lead them, not sit on the sidelines suspended.

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      • Aprilbr
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2016
        • 1803

        #4
        Originally posted by Goal Sneak
        Barry was a champion but he also had a few flaws in his capacity to control his anger. I've got no problem with any one of his team mates calling out any crap of his. He lost the trust of the leadership group, they needed him to stay composed and lead them, not sit on the sidelines suspended.
        The whole idea of the Leading Teams approach was for people to give frank feedback to each other regardless of rank.

        I agree with GS that Barry lost the confidence of his teammates in his final season with us due to poor onfield behaviour. It was a shame as he was a champion player before that. He was one of the best players in the AFL in 2005 and 2006. Our recruiting of him was a master-stroke.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8548

          #5
          Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
          He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

          With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

          I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

          Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
          No one is immune from criticism. Yes, BBBH was a champion but he was far from perfect. It matters little who the 'young up start' was, I trust the Swans to internally work these things out if anything is seen as a problem.

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          • Bloods05
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2008
            • 1641

            #6
            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
            He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

            With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

            I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

            Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
            Fair dinkum mate. This is getting beyond silly and edging into crazy.

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            • AB Swannie
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2017
              • 1579

              #7
              Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
              He was a great champion. I remember shaking Barry’s hand in late 2005 at the Cargo Upstairs bar (I was always upstairs). I told him what a legend his was and how awesome the premiership was. Barry had this bemused look on his face but handled my enthusiasm like a champion.

              With Barry he said in an interview with Mike Sheehan that towards the end of his Swans tenure that young Swans players used to give it to him in the “Leading Teams” forums.

              I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

              Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
              Pretty sure it was Dan Hannebery and Nick Smith.

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              • Bangalore Swans
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Mar 2021
                • 1049

                #8
                Originally posted by stevoswan
                No one is immune from criticism. Yes, BBBH was a champion but he was far from perfect. It matters little who the 'young up start' was, I trust the Swans to internally work these things out if anything is seen as a problem.
                The fact that Barry mentioned the leading teams feedback in his Open Mike interview means the process of a young player giving him feedback does not sit easily with him.

                I’m old school and believe that young players should not be telling older champions like Barry how to behave. The young guys should do their time and let the experienced guys talk to Barry.

                I don’t believe it was Hannenberry. In 2009, Hannenberry was a 1st year player doing high school out of Melbourne and getting himself into trouble for throwing eggs. I don’t think a high school egg thrower would have the hide to lecture BBBB.

                Nick Smith could be plausible. I’ve got some one else in mind.

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                • 0918330512
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1654

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                  I was appalled to hear that young Swans upstarts were giving feedback to Barry and trying to look like a leader. How dare a young Swans player question a premiership captain like Barry. He didn’t name who the young player was but I have my suspicions.

                  Does anyone know who the young upstart was who dared to question Barry.
                  Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                  The fact that Barry mentioned the leading teams feedback in his Open Mike interview means the process of a young player giving him feedback does not sit easily with him.

                  I’m old school and believe that young players should not be telling older champions like Barry how to behave. The young guys should do their time and let the experienced guys talk to Barry.

                  I don’t believe it was Hannenberry. In 2009, Hannenberry was a 1st year player doing high school out of Melbourne and getting himself into trouble for throwing eggs. I don’t think a high school egg thrower would have the hide to lecture BBBB.

                  Nick Smith could be plausible. I’ve got some one else in mind.
                  The whole concept of Leading Teams was that players - all players - were free (& expected) to comment. Have a read of BJ’s book. It’s one of the contributors to our famed and admired culture.

                  You ask others to name & shame and then you say you suspect someone. Please cut the double standards rubbish and put your money where your mouth is or just give it a rest

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                  • mcs
                    Travelling Swannie!!
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8161

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                    The fact that Barry mentioned the leading teams feedback in his Open Mike interview means the process of a young player giving him feedback does not sit easily with him.

                    I’m old school and believe that young players should not be telling older champions like Barry how to behave. The young guys should do their time and let the experienced guys talk to Barry.

                    I don’t believe it was Hannenberry. In 2009, Hannenberry was a 1st year player doing high school out of Melbourne and getting himself into trouble for throwing eggs. I don’t think a high school egg thrower would have the hide to lecture BBBB.

                    Nick Smith could be plausible. I’ve got some one else in mind.
                    Enough with the bizarre witch hunt.

                    You can believe whatever you want to believe, live in whatever 'yesterdays' age your mind wants to live in. But you aren't part of the football club, and this really doesn't matter.
                    Last edited by mcs; 16 January 2022, 01:12 PM.
                    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                    • Bangalore Swans
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 1049

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mcs
                      Enough with the bizarre witch hunt.

                      You can believe whatever you want to believe, live in whatever 'yesterdays' age your mind wants to live in. But you aren't part of the football club, and this really doesn't matter.
                      I’m going on what Barry Hall said. I’ve asked for information and accused nobody.

                      FYI, Barry was the most important player during the Swans 2003-2006 glory run.

                      If not for Barry, all of you would not have had your break through premiership.

                      If Barry doesn’t like young upstarts giving him feedback then all of you should be on Barry’s side. Don’t back the accounts on the greatness of leading teams from Brandon Jack.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8161

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                        I’m going on what Barry Hall said. I’ve asked for information and accused nobody.

                        FYI, Barry was the most important player during the Swans 2003-2006 glory run.

                        If not for Barry, all of you would not have had your break through premiership.

                        If Barry doesn’t like young upstarts giving him feedback then all of you should be on Barry’s side. Don’t back the accounts on the greatness of leading teams from Brandon Jack.
                        @@@@ off with telling people what they should think or what they should do already..... its utterly nauseating.

                        You can believe what you want. But stop trying to tell other people what they should think.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • AB Swannie
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1579

                          #13
                          FWIW, I have no idea who said what when I mentioned Hanners and Nick Smith. I just thought it was best to reply to crazy with crazy.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8161

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AB Swannie
                            FWIW, I have no idea who said what when I mentioned Hanners and Nick Smith. I just thought it was best to reply to crazy with crazy.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • Bangalore Swans
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 1049

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mcs
                              @@@@ off with telling people what they should think or what they should do already..... its utterly nauseating.

                              You can believe what you want. But stop trying to tell other people what they should think.
                              I peg your pardon. Gentlemen never resort to swearing and foul language.

                              I’m not telling you how to think MCS, I’m simply strongly expressing an opinion. Your reaction to me reminds me of Novak saying “don’t tell me what to think”.

                              Barry was a brilliant player and a huge influence on the success of the Swans. I felt that he was a bit abandoned at the end of his Swans career by an ungrateful playing group and Paul Roos.

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