Rnd 18 vs Fremantle at Optus, 7:30 PM Sat 16 July 2022

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  • Maltopia
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2016
    • 1556

    Team List Rnd 18 vs Fremantle at Optus, 7:30 PM Sat 16 July 2022

    Good chance to make top four if we win against the Dockers and win a few more after that.

    Ladhams out with thumb surgery.

    Logan would love to come to WA, see his family etc, but Almartey was great in the first quarter with the two marks and goals and competitive for the rest of the day. Reid was awesome.

    So I would say just Hickey in for Ladhams.
  • stevoswan
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2014
    • 8570

    #2
    Yes, Logan is probably going to miss that trip home, given Reid and Amartey's excellent performances....but they may take him anyway if they think some family time would benefit him. Joel needs to start putting in four complete quarters but that will come with game time so won't be dropped this week one would think.

    Hickey for Ladhams sounds about right.

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    • Doctor
      Bay 29
      • Sep 2003
      • 2757

      #3
      They might take him as part of an extended squad. You always need a few extra reserves when you travel that far.

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16786

        #4
        Originally posted by stevoswan
        Yes, Logan is probably going to miss that trip home, given Reid and Amartey's excellent performances....but they may take him anyway if they think some family time would benefit him. Joel needs to start putting in four complete quarters but that will come with game time so won't be dropped this week one would think.

        Hickey for Ladhams sounds about right.
        I don't know for sure, as it's hard to keep tabs on everything happening during a game, but I suspect that after Ladhams was injured and subbed out, Amartey's time in the forward line was restricted to reduce the chances of losing another big man (and thus having no-one to support Reid in the ruck). I reckon he was largely forward only enough to give Buddy a rest, and then when he wasn't relieving Reid in the ruck, he was on the bench.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16786

          #5
          Originally posted by Doctor
          They might take him as part of an extended squad. You always need a few extra reserves when you travel that far.

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          Maybe that's why Laidler got some extra training in this weekend, playing with Sydney Uni, just to make sure he's ready if needed. The VFL team plays on Friday night so there's no opportunity for players to double up across the squads. They'll likely take 25 (at least) over to Perth - the 23 and two emergencies.

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          • Ludwig
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            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #6
            Originally posted by liz
            I don't know for sure, as it's hard to keep tabs on everything happening during a game, but I suspect that after Ladhams was injured and subbed out, Amartey's time in the forward line was restricted to reduce the chances of losing another big man (and thus having no-one to support Reid in the ruck). I reckon he was largely forward only enough to give Buddy a rest, and then when he wasn't relieving Reid in the ruck, he was on the bench.
            You must be right on Amartey. I just looked up the stats and he had only 65% TOG. That would indicate that we are unlikely to drop Amartey, as we would want to take 3 ruck-capable players into the game, especially with Hickey just coming back from illness. McDonald will likely go to Perth as an emergency. Freo have quite a strong ruck division, so it will be a real challenge, both in the ruck and when they go forward.

            I rate Freo as the best team in the comp atm. Both sides are at near full strength, so it will be a good test to see how they stack up.

            If Ryan Clarke stays in the side, and I think he should, he is likely to tag Jordan Clark. So it should be fun for the commenters, especially if BT does the game.

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            • MattW
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              • May 2011
              • 4230

              #7
              Originally posted by Ludwig
              You must be right on Amartey. I just looked up the stats and he had only 65% TOG. That would indicate that we are unlikely to drop Amartey, as we would want to take 3 ruck-capable players into the game, especially with Hickey just coming back from illness. McDonald will likely go to Perth as an emergency. Freo have quite a strong ruck division, so it will be a real challenge, both in the ruck and when they go forward.

              I rate Freo as the best team in the comp atm. Both sides are at near full strength, so it will be a good test to see how they stack up.

              If Ryan Clarke stays in the side, and I think he should, he is likely to tag Jordan Clark. So it should be fun for the commenters, especially if BT does the game.
              It's Saturday night, so Taylor won't call it - he calls Thursday and/or Friday night and Sunday arvo.

              The Channel 7 team on Saturday nights is Luke Darcy and Hamish McLachlan. But we'll be spared that duo this week, aa Carlton-Geelong is also Saturday night and Channel 7 will take that game.

              As result, a Fox team will call the game, which generally means there's no need to mute.

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              • MattW
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                • May 2011
                • 4230

                #8
                Originally posted by Ludwig
                You must be right on Amartey. I just looked up the stats and he had only 65% TOG. That would indicate that we are unlikely to drop Amartey, as we would want to take 3 ruck-capable players into the game, especially with Hickey just coming back from illness. McDonald will likely go to Perth as an emergency. Freo have quite a strong ruck division, so it will be a real challenge, both in the ruck and when they go forward.

                I rate Freo as the best team in the comp atm. Both sides are at near full strength, so it will be a good test to see how they stack up.

                If Ryan Clarke stays in the side, and I think he should, he is likely to tag Jordan Clark. So it should be fun for the commenters, especially if BT does the game.
                And on Amartey, the quarter by quarter stats are interesting:

                Q1: 76% TOG, 3 disposals, 2 goals, 0 RCs (ruck contests)

                Q2: 52% TOG, 2 disposals, 4 RCs, 1 HO

                Q3: 58% TOG, 3 disposals, 7 RCs, 1 HO

                Q4: 75% TOG, 0 disposals, 7 RCs, 5 HO

                Ladhams was subbed in the second and Reid had 82%, 85% and 77% TOG in Q2-Q4.

                So assuming Reid played primary ruck while on the field, the majority of Amartey's TOG was still other than primary ruck.

                Agree with the general point that they'll likely want to play 3 ruck-capable players v Fremantle.





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                • TheBloods
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 2047

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MattW
                  It's Saturday night, so Taylor won't call it - he calls Thursday and/or Friday night and Sunday arvo.

                  The Channel 7 team on Saturday nights is Luke Darcy and Hamish McLachlan. But we'll be spared that duo this week, aa Carlton-Geelong is also Saturday night and Channel 7 will take that game.

                  As result, a Fox team will call the game, which generally means there's no need to mute.
                  Thank god , he is useless

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                  • troyjones2525
                    Swans Fanatic!
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2908

                    #10
                    Wowsers! I think TheBloods has a new rival for ChadMania! Just heard Damian Barrett talk on Footy Classified about his love of The Chad and made the huge call that he will win a Brownlow Medal as soon as 2023 or 2024! The panel were quite amused by his statement but he doubled down and stuck by his call saying they can revisit it!

                    ChadMania has finally reached the masses!!!

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      #11
                      Originally posted by troyjones2525
                      Wowsers! I think TheBloods has a new rival for ChadMania! Just heard Damian Barrett talk on Footy Classified about his love of The Chad and made the huge call that he will win a Brownlow Medal as soon as 2023 or 2024! The panel were quite amused by his statement but he doubled down and stuck by his call saying they can revisit it!

                      ChadMania has finally reached the masses!!!

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                      Thats a few who have said it now . Im telling you . I might not say things the right way but I have been around a long time and i know my stuff

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                      • Markwebbos
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                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by troyjones2525
                        Wowsers! I think TheBloods has a new rival for ChadMania! Just heard Damian Barrett talk on Footy Classified about his love of The Chad and made the huge call that he will win a Brownlow Medal as soon as 2023 or 2024! The panel were quite amused by his statement but he doubled down and stuck by his call saying they can revisit it!

                        ChadMania has finally reached the masses!!!

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                        Robbo rates him the #1 pick in his draft year

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          #13
                          Originally posted by troyjones2525
                          Wowsers! I think TheBloods has a new rival for ChadMania! Just heard Damian Barrett talk on Footy Classified about his love of The Chad and made the huge call that he will win a Brownlow Medal as soon as 2023 or 2024! The panel were quite amused by his statement but he doubled down and stuck by his call saying they can revisit it!

                          ChadMania has finally reached the masses!!!

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                          TB may have been talking Chad up the most 18 months ago but there were others who were excited about him before his debut, and Bangalore would have to have been the biggest ChadManiac over the last year or so.

                          I haven't encountered it yet other than through RWO, but it does sound like ChadMania is now reaching the masses.
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                          • i'm-uninformed2
                            Reefer Madness
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4653

                            #14
                            Having watched the Chad for the first time live the other night, it confirmed a few things about why we all think he’s so special.

                            One: his power and explosion was everything I expected, but it was still deeply impressive to see live.

                            Two: he’s a fast learner. I joked about this earlier in the year when he got done a couple of times for dissent, but then quickly learned to rub his hands and fingers through the Chad hair, and stare at the umpire with mouth agape, but avoid being pinged.

                            But you can also see it in the rapid evolution of parts of his game.

                            Last year, he was prone to blasting the ball no matter the circumstances. I still laugh at the Richmond game in round three at the MCG when he kicked that goal bursting inside 50, then about two minutes later was on the run again - but thought he could do it from 65m. He was like an over-adrenalined puppy. This year, he has learned the value of the short kick at the right time and must have landed half a dozen of them the other night.

                            The other was his work at stoppages. Most notably in the GWS final, but also the final play of the Bulldogs game earlier this year, he’d been guilty of ball hunting too early. You want a player like Chad to be offensively minded, but timing is everything. Watching him the other night, he’s holding that fraction longer - probably because he’s worked out with his level of explosion, he can hold his position and still go offensively when the time is right and be a weapon. The goal he kicked in the first quarter was a classic example. He stayed at the contest till it was clear we were going to clear it, and then was still able to leave the Bont trailing him as he tracked inside 50, got the handball from Paps and finished it off.

                            It all suggests a great instinct for the game and willingness to learn, and learn quickly.
                            'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              #15
                              Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                              Having watched the Chad for the first time live the other night, it confirmed a few things about why we all think he’s so special.

                              One: his power and explosion was everything I expected, but it was still deeply impressive to see live.

                              Two: he’s a fast learner. I joked about this earlier in the year when he got done a couple of times for dissent, but then quickly learned to rub his hands and fingers through the Chad hair, and stare at the umpire with mouth agape, but avoid being pinged.

                              But you can also see it in the rapid evolution of parts of his game.

                              Last year, he was prone to blasting the ball no matter the circumstances. I still laugh at the Richmond game in round three at the MCG when he kicked that goal bursting inside 50, then about two minutes later was on the run again - but thought he could do it from 65m. He was like an over-adrenalined puppy. This year, he has learned the value of the short kick at the right time and must have landed half a dozen of them the other night.

                              The other was his work at stoppages. Most notably in the GWS final, but also the final play of the Bulldogs game earlier this year, he’d been guilty of ball hunting too early. You want a player like Chad to be offensively minded, but timing is everything. Watching him the other night, he’s holding that fraction longer - probably because he’s worked out with his level of explosion, he can hold his position and still go offensively when the time is right and be a weapon. The goal he kicked in the first quarter was a classic example. He stayed at the contest till it was clear we were going to clear it, and then was still able to leave the Bont trailing him as he tracked inside 50, got the handball from Paps and finished it off.

                              It all suggests a great instinct for the game and willingness to learn, and learn quickly.
                              Spot on . Just a brilliant player

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