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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8578

    General footy chat Round 2: the other games. Yes, I know one round is a small sample size, but...

    So, what I more or less mean by that thread title, is that it's probably a bit silly to draw too many conclusions after one round, but that round is possibly a better indication of a team's strength, than both the preseason and the offseason, where the fates of various teams were pronounced as something close to facts, on the basis of a few trades and draft picks. Alternately, the title could also mean, that I'd love to claim that a few teams were already in trouble, but wish as I might, I'm not really silly enough to do that.

    One team that I'd absolutely love to start writing off is Geelong, but obviously we can't do that, even though they collapsed in a heap to let in the last eight goals against Collingwood. So; I'll just have make do with barracking against them, despite the fact that entails letting out a few mild cheers for Carlton. And one thing that hardens me against Geelong is the fact that Jack Bowes is making their debut for them. To me, Bowes seems to be the special award that Geelong got from the AFL for, 'most creative accounting in season 2022'. I mean, somehow the star-studded team that finished first, had much more salary cap space than the team that finished twelfth. And then of course, the AFL more or less said, 'if paying that salary is a bit of an inconvenience for you, don't worry, you can pay it over four seasons instead of two'. Grrrr!

    Next up, the champions of the offseason, Brisbane, take on the 2021 premiers, Melbourne. Brisbane's insipid three goal to thirteen second half collapse against Port, means that there's every chance they'll be in a little bit of early season trouble at 0/2.

    The first Saturday game is between two of the more impressive teams of round one; Collingwood and Port. Although, I don't quite think that Collingwood are quite as impressive as many media talking heads are making out; in that, they tend to give the impression that Collingwood play with a relentless attacking flair, that other teams are too timid to employ themselves and too slow to match. However, the stats don't quite back that up. In the last home and away season, they scored 1839 points. Which was the ninth best: over 200 points less than us, and behind such teams as Carlton and Gold Coast.
    Also, since the two teams have been at loggerheads in the past about Port wearing their traditional black and white, I tend to think that these clashes could be livened up by allowing the winner to chose the colours for the next clash. That is, winner gets to play in black and white, while the loser has to play in something humiliating. Like some of the more aberrant, special edition Hawthorn jerseys. Perhaps the golden sailor suit, or the abomination that could be described as a bold combination of bubblegum and turd.

    The Saturday afternoon game is Adelaide hosting Richmond. Looks like new captain, Jordan Dawson, couldn't inspire Adelaide enough to hold on against an injury ravaged GWS. Time for a change?

    The next game is St Kilda and Western Bulldogs. It seems that most of St Kilda's talls are injured, while the Bulldogs have too many. So in the interest of fairness, perhaps the Bulldogs lend out a couple of theirs? Superficially, it would seem a bit too altruistic, but I'm not so sure?

    The other Saturday night game is Fremantle hosting North. If North win this, we'll probably get the first, "Clarko the Messiah" headlines; so, go Fremantle.

    In the early Sunday game we host Hawthorn. After watching Hawthorn last week, I think our major danger might be overconfidence.

    On the strength of their big win against the hapless Hawthorn, Essendon are clear favourites against Gold Coast. I'm not sure that I'd be backing Essendon. Against Gold Coast last week, we laid 84 tackles. Against Hawthorn, Essendon made 37. I suspect players like Miller and Anderson will thrive with the extra time and space.

    The conclusion of the round is West Coast hosting GWS. Apparently in round one, West Coast were just as inept as they were last season, especially in regards to ball movement, while the injury depleted GWS seemed thoroughly spent after overcoming Adelaide in 38 degree heat. So, it's anyone's guess which negative will be more pertinent.

    And finally, if results go to plan, then we should finish the round on top of the table. So here's hoping.
  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    #2
    Thanks for kicking this off as ever, deja. I'm not even lodging my usual request for it to start sooner.

    I think I'd prefer Geelong to beat Carlton. The Blues are my least favourite team and I'd love them to miss the finals again.
    I think I'd prefer Brisbane to beat Melbourne - just because they are both top 4 contenders and splitting the points among our rivals improves our chances. Also, I don't want Brisbane to win the flag but I don't want them to go down the gurgler either.
    I hope Port beat Collingwood.
    Adelaide v Richmond I don't care very much but possibly prefer Adelaide because they are less of a threat. Let them have some mid-table mediocrity and finish around 12th.
    I'd love the Saints to beat the Bulldogs, even if I'm not a big Ross fan.
    I don't care who wins Freo v North. Possibly fancy the romanticism of North winning that one. But I'm tipping Freo (or I would be if I were in any tipping comp).
    I hope Gold Coast beat Essendon - and I reckon they will.
    I hope GWS beat Weagles. GWS will be up against it after the attrition of their last match, their injuries, and travelling across to WA but fortunately it's the Weagles so I think GWS can do it.
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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      #3
      Geelong are giving Cooper Whyte his debut.... as a sub. My immediate response is disgust. But it's better than last year when it was a medical sub and they might not take the field at all. It was pretty normal for players to make their debut as sub last time we had the sub rule.
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      • Sandridge
        Outer wing, Lake Oval
        • Apr 2010
        • 2065

        #4
        Love your thoughts on the "other games," deja! Thanks for starting this thread again.

        Can't agree with you on tonight's game, however. Could never, ever bring myself to want Carlton to win anything. Go Cats!
        I'd like the Dees to get over the Lions.
        Would love Port to beat Collingwood but can't see it happening.
        Go the Crows against Richmond.
        St.Kilda/Bulldogs? Hate them both! A nil all draw please!
        Want Freo to put Norf and Clarkson back in their place.
        Suns to beat Essendon please.
        Don't care about Eagles/Giants.

        GO YOU MIGHTY CYGNETS!

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8578

          #5
          I noticed that at the tribunal appeal, the counsel representing McAdam talked for around 50 minutes. How anyone could talk for that amount time on a bump, is totally beyond me. I'm just glad that I wasn't there to hear it.

          Another thing I just noticed, is that George Hewett is out of the Carlton side with a hand injury. No Hewett, no Carlton?

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          • Sandridge
            Outer wing, Lake Oval
            • Apr 2010
            • 2065

            #6
            Gary Rohan just kicked a goal for Geelong from about 60 metres out!

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            • Mark26
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2017
              • 1535

              #7
              I can't bring myself to barrack for anyone tonight. It just makes me feel too dirty.

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              • Mel_C
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4470

                #8
                I'm at the game tonight and it's not a pretty game. Too many fumbles and turnovers.

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8578

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mark26
                  I can't bring myself to barrack for anyone tonight. It just makes me feel too dirty.
                  Yes, I might be more interested in the results of a forensic audit into both club's salary caps.

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                  • Sandridge
                    Outer wing, Lake Oval
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2065

                    #10
                    Hmmm. Carlton have opened up a bit of a break on Geelong.

                    In fact, Carlton are all over them at the moment!

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8578

                      #11
                      If you offered Carlton fans a draw right now, I wonder what percentage would take it?

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8548

                        #12
                        Well, Carlton hasn't stuffed up for a change. They gave it their best shot but managed to hang on. Good win really. Cats have work to do.

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8161

                          #13
                          Good to see the Cats at 0-2.

                          Carlton actually held on in a close game for once. Miracles do happen I suppose!
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • MattW
                            Veterans List
                            • May 2011
                            • 4211

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mark26
                            I can't bring myself to barrack for anyone tonight. It just makes me feel too dirty.
                            I couldn't either. Desire for one team to lose equally balanced by desire for the other not to win. Each result necessarily both good and bad.

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                            • Southern Swan15
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2010
                              • 203

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MattW
                              I couldn't either. Desire for one team to lose equally balanced by desire for the other not to win. Each result necessarily both good and bad.
                              Rather Easy... seeing the cats lose will make me sleep well...

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