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  • Snowy
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    • Jun 2003
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    Roos slams the new rule changes and believes it will truncate some careers.



    These are 2 of the key points from the article.

    "I guarantee you there will be blokes on our list who won't be playing AFL footy again.
    "There are blokes from the premiership team who won't get a game if they bring that in."
    LIFE GOES ON
  • Bleed Red Blood
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2003
    • 2057

    #2
    He's doing a Dempster in that photo. Hahah.

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    • NMWBloods
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      • Jan 2003
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      #3
      Re: Roos slams the new rule changes and believes it will truncate some careers.

      Originally posted by Snowy
      http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/foo...E20322,00.html

      These are 2 of the key points from the article.

      "I guarantee you there will be blokes on our list who won't be playing AFL footy again.
      "There are blokes from the premiership team who won't get a game if they bring that in."
      This was related to limited interchange, which is not one of the "new rule changes" for this year.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • OldE

        #4
        Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
        He's doing a Dempster in that photo.
        LMAO

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        • Charlie
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          Re: Re: Roos slams the new rule changes and believes it will truncate some careers.

          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          This was related to limited interchange, which is not one of the "new rule changes" for this year.
          I think you're right, but it does pose the question of which players he was thinking of. McVeigh? Schneider? Ablett? Those three are players that spend a fair bit of time on the bench, but is that because of legitimate endurance worries, or because they're younger midfielders on the fringes of the best 18?
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          • NMWBloods
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            #6
            I assumed he meant players who need to play off the bench, perhaps someone like Williams now.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • Charlie
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              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              I assumed he meant players who need to play off the bench, perhaps someone like Williams now.
              I thought of Williams, but he's not going to be around much longer anyway.

              The other players that played off the bench were Ball (retired), Bevan (he'd be worried if that rule came in), Fosdike (not a problem) and Vogels (not really a problem).

              The bigger problem, I'd imagine, is players who spend a few minutes of each quarter on the bench - Kirk, Buchanan, Ablett and perhaps to a lesser extent Jude Bolton. Can these blokes get by without coming off three or four times in a match?

              I hate the thought of limited interchanges.
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              • Glenn
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                • Mar 2003
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                #8
                When the limited interchange is introduced expect to see a significant rise in player injuries, the more fatigued a player gets the more likely they are to do something that will lead to a injury, or a player carrying a "minor" injury isn't replaced due to all interchanges being used, the injury becomes worse and they are spending weeks on the sidelines
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                • liz
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  #9
                  Its hard to know who "wouldn't get a game anymore" because at the moment the Swans game is built around hard work and hard running. There is no way that Kirk or Bolton, say, could play the way they currently do without a break. But then any such rule change would affect all teams.

                  At first glance, those players who are not naturally aerobically fit would be the first to go - maybe a Schneider?. But maybe the long term casualties would be those who aren't flexible enough to play in the pocket "to rest", or who do not have special enough skills to be able to make an impact if they aren't working at 100mph. Someone like Kirk springs to mind. Bolton too.

                  Such a rule change would almost certainly cut short the career of many midfielders, who would be robbed of the ability to make a real contribution in their later years as an impact player. And someone like Maxfield would probably not have made it past 50 games.

                  The good news for the Swans is that they always have Spriggs to fall back on.

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                  • NMWBloods
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                    • Jan 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Charlie
                    The bigger problem, I'd imagine, is players who spend a few minutes of each quarter on the bench - Kirk, Buchanan, Ablett and perhaps to a lesser extent Jude Bolton. Can these blokes get by without coming off three or four times in a match?

                    I hate the thought of limited interchanges.
                    Do what they used to do - rest them in the forward line.
                    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                    • NMWBloods
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glenn
                      When the limited interchange is introduced expect to see a significant rise in player injuries, the more fatigued a player gets the more likely they are to do something that will lead to a injury, or a player carrying a "minor" injury isn't replaced due to all interchanges being used, the injury becomes worse and they are spending weeks on the sidelines
                      Gerard Healy believes that the interchange actually creates injuries. Fresh players increase the speed of the game, hence making tired players more prone to becoming injured (you can't take off everyone).
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • Glenn
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                        • Mar 2003
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                        #12
                        Hmmm interesting theory, but as I see it using that logic they are trying to increase the speed of the game with the rule changes we will see this year, but how will having tired players increase the speed of the game when the limited interchanges is introduced.
                        If a player is tired they are interchanged, and a fresh player is brought on. I wouldn't imagine to many coaches leaving a tired player marking a player that has just been interchanged
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                        • SheppSwanFan
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                          #13
                          Did they try a limited interchange rule in League? I thought they did, but found it didn't work and came up with some compromise...

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                          • Glenn
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by SheppSwanFan
                            Did they try a limited interchange rule in League? I thought they did, but found it didn't work and came up with some compromise...
                            They do have the limited interchange in League, with a couple of exemptions
                            1) If a player from team A is injured by a player from team B, and the player from team B is put on report for causing the injury, team A is entitled to a "free" interchange.

                            or

                            2)If a player is instructed to leave the field by the referee due to the blood rule, the replacement player is not counted in the interchange numbers
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                            • NMWBloods
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Glenn
                              Hmmm interesting theory, but as I see it using that logic they are trying to increase the speed of the game with the rule changes we will see this year, but how will having tired players increase the speed of the game when the limited interchanges is introduced.
                              If a player is tired they are interchanged, and a fresh player is brought on. I wouldn't imagine to many coaches leaving a tired player marking a player that has just been interchanged
                              My point was perhaps unclear - Healy says the extended interchange produces injuries by making a faster game. Less interchanges should thus produce less injuries. I'm not sure though how the AFL thinks it will create a faster game. Still, until not that many years ago most players played a full game.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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