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  • omnipotent

    Must fess up on Wallace to qualify for handout

    Here is the full article from the Telegraph


    Swans reveal Wallace's $1.8m
    EXCLUSIVE By RICHARD ZACHARIAH
    08jun03
    THE Swans face the prospect of being told to come clean on their dealings with former Bulldogs coach Terry Wallace or forget about the AFL digging them out of their financial hole.

    The Sunday Telegraph has been told the Swans agreed to pay Wallace $1.8 million over three years to coach the club in 2003 before they were shamed into sticking with the popular Paul Roos after the club's late-season revival.

    Wallace threatened to sue when the Swans tried to back away from the deal and the club agreed to pay him until he found another coaching job. Wallace is now building a successful career in the Melbourne media.

    Neither Wallace nor his manager Craig Kelly would comment yesterday, bound by the code of silence that has been central to this most inept chapter in the Swans' history.

    But the fact the Swans could be paying for two coaches ? one sitting in Melbourne earning $600,000 a season ? is unlikely to attract sympathy from cash-strapped Melbourne clubs.









    The Swans put their hand out for financial help last week and AFL chief Wayne Jackson said he awaited documentation on the Wallace affair "with interest".

    "The AFL is not in the business of signing $1 million cheques unconditionally," he said.

    Other club bosses are determined to show little charity to the Swans, believing their cash crisis is self-inflicted.

    Melbourne clubs, in particular, are demanding full disclosure before life-saving funds are given. Several are questioning why the Swans retained the highest spending football department in the AFL ? $12.46 million in 2002-03, which is nearly $2m more than premiers Brisbane.

    Chairman of the Western Bulldogs, David Smorgon, said last night the transparency of the Swans' financial dealings was essential to the granting of survival funds.

    He said his own near bankrupt Bulldogs and the struggling Kangaroos were subjected to a strict financial audit before receiving AFL money.

    "The Swans should be no different and we need to know the details ? and that includes any contract with Wallace," he said.

    Wallace has been linked with Hawthorn in 2004, but his controversial views are unlikely to endear him to clubs in search of a coach potentially leaving the Swans with a financial millstone around their necks.

    As the maelstrom intensifies around the Swans, their embattled chairman Richard Colless ? effectively the club's acting chief executive ? leaves for a three-week private trip to Europe tomorrow. He did not return calls from The Sunday Telegraph yesterday.

    On his return he will host the AFL commission in Sydney on July 5. That meeting will signal the immediate future of Colless and the Swans.

    As the Swans' only shareholder, the AFL originally appointed Colless to the thankless task of leading the bankrupt club and appointing his own board.

    While no one doubts his loyalty, Colless' 10-year chairmanship of the Swans must now go under the microscope given the club's parlous administrative state.

    In a pointed reference this week, Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse drew attention to Colless' role in establishing the West Coast Eagles. Colless resigned as chairman after the first year with the fledging club.

    The Wallace affair, which has been shrouded in secrecy since the approach was first made when coach Rodney Eade was sacked/resigned after round 12 last year, could be the straw that breaks the Swans' back.

    A circumspect Jackson said no documentation of the Wallace deal had crossed his desk. And he further confused the issue yesterday when he said Sydney had made no official approach for money.

    "If Wallace has been paid by the club, a sponsor or by people outside the club then of course this would make a difference to how we viewed their financial management," he said.

    Sources within the Sydney organisation said Wallace was being paid "as if he was coaching the 2003 Swans", but it is unclear if the money is being paid by supporters outside the club structure.

    Colless has in the past denied the Swans' financial woes were linked to any settlement or payments to Wallace.

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  • footyhead
    Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
    • May 2003
    • 1367

    #2
    WOW.
    This is big. I think Colless has to go and we should get a vote. other wise the club will just be perceived for what it is on an administrative level, a mismanaged specialist arm of the AFL.

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    • Charlie
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4101

      #3
      As has been shown in another thread... "sources" aren't extremely reliable. A "source" can even be a figment of the journalist's imagination.

      The annoying thing is seeing Colless GOING ON HOLIDAY at a time like this. He did the exact same thing during the coaching furore last year. He seems to board a plane any time something doesn't go to plan.
      We hate Anthony Rocca
      We hate Shannon Grant too
      We hate scumbag Gaspar
      But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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      • footyhead
        Banned indefinitely by Moderators for posting totally inappropriate material
        • May 2003
        • 1367

        #4
        Either way i still want the reponsibility of the club to at least in part be handed over to the supporters. IE give us a vote and a say , and a scense of participation.
        I am afraid that they will use their stuff ups to deny us this once again.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #5
          Hmmm... $600K... that number sounds familiar... does anyone remember a thread from much earlier this year on payments to Wallace...
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • Rizzo
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 655

            #6
            If Wallace was paid Colless has to go.

            Again, this highlights the need for finiancial transparency for members.

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            • Craig
              On the Rookie List
              • Jan 2003
              • 225

              #7
              Colless must go regardless. His handling of the coaching issue was a joke.

              I'm worried that this will effect Roos. I heard him interviewed saying that he was categorically assured by Colless & Ireland that there was no deal with Wallace. Should it be found out that money was paid to Wallace there is no way that Colless and Roos would be able to work together.

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                #8
                I have heard Terry Wallace on Melbourne radio deny on a number of occasions there was any deal.

                Just another journo trying to beat up the affairs of last week. When Caro came out with "Real Facts" some time ago everyone gave her the raspberry. I wonder if she will now say this week. "I told you so".

                Story will just go away as it did last time.
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                • penga
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2601

                  #9
                  that article is bull****, have a look at the quotes used and there is absolutely nothing categoically implying the link is actually real... the rest is just heresay... poor piece of journalism
                  C'mon Chels!

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                  • Dpw
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 829

                    #10
                    If this is true than no extra funding should be provided to the swans we can only blame mismanagement.

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                    • Bron
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 851

                      #11
                      I have heard the rumours, they are persistent, but I can make no other comment.

                      However, I think this is our opportunity to push for membership representation on the Board. I don't believe that we should have a fully elected board. I do believe it should be gradual. But there definitely needs to be transparency now.

                      For those who have been following the story. Colless said there would be a vote last year. Then he came out saying it would be this year. This was in the swans magazine. I spoke to him last night and he said next year. I asked the beginning or the end of next year and he shrugged. Next year never comes. This is total and utter deception and stringing the supporters on. Not acceptable! I spoke to many people last night and most raised the issue of membership representation on the board - totally unprompted by me. This is the next big issue.
                      Dream, believe, achieve!

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        Sometimes I don't think some of you guys understand journalism. You say it's a big beatup and they should put evidence forth. However, in the initial stages of an investigative piece there is usually little usable evidence - just information from a source.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Roscoe
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 458

                          #13
                          my 2 cents worth

                          The rumor is that until verified.

                          if it is true however, the entire Board at the time must go along
                          with a Public apology to Roos.

                          People have criticised the coaching appointmment. I beleive that we had to interview other candidates at the time, Pagan , Wallace etc. But if Roos was selected as the best candidate and there was no "payout" lets give our Board some credit !!
                          September 24th, 2005 5.14pm
                          What a great moment in all of our lives

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                          • swan_song
                            I'm SO over the swans!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 981

                            #14
                            This is indeed very poor tabloid journalism, but nothing more than we should expect from a RL obsessed media in Sydney. The headline, if the reporting here on R&WOL is accurate, is NOT borne out in the story...Which Swans in the story revealed Wallace's $1.8m? Did u see any mentioned? I didn't. Poor journalism relies on rumour and innuendo, and this story is one that is on a merry-g0-round...how many times has it appeared now? Also the very story as it appears here uses emotive and inflammatory terms, designed especially to belittle the swans...for example "shamed into sticking with"..."The Swans put their hand out for financial help last week"..."leading the bankrupt club "...
                            That is not to say, however, that it is not true, it may well be...I do believe though that if it were, there should be some mass resignations from the board.
                            "Davis...Davis has kicked 2...he snaps from 40...dont tell me, dont tell me, hes kicked a goal....unbelievable stuff from Nick Davis, can you believe this, he's kicked 3 final quarter goals and Swans are within 3 points..."

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                            • Jon
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 162

                              #15
                              Yeah...I'm not convinved by the Terry Wallace conspiracy theories.

                              Until I hear otherwise, I'm just going to leave all this tosh in the "Moon-landings-were-faked" basket.

                              If you're looking for reasons and scapegoats:

                              There was an article in the Australian a few day back which detailed how the change in personnel has resulted in a budget blow-out. It claimed Templeton was paid until the end of last year despite having no duties at the club from AUG 2002, Seery - who was replaced by Andrew McMaster - will continue to be paid until the end of the year, also without a role at the club, and that Laussen - who was replaced by Andrew Ireland - had just signed a 3 yr contract last year and the club had to reach an agreement with him as well.

                              This appears in the accounts as a hole of $654 000. Add that to the $1M loss last year, and there ain't much room left for any Wallace fairy tales....

                              Frankly, it's bad enough as it is.

                              Still....at least we're playing well!
                              Time to march for the Red and White

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