Bazza at CHF

[motorace_182]

Seemed to spend a lot more time than usual on the 50 or just outside. Thus leaving Magic a decent amount of space to lead into. Dam fine move to place Hall there but was also good to see his desperation for the ball instead of the man holding it. Turning point when Cressa snapped early 2nd half after Halls persistence sent it there

[Plugger46]

Very true Moterace.

Barry Hall is not a FF, he is a CHF, that's why O'loughlin is so important to the side. He can play FF better than Hall, take a gun defender, and apart from that Micky is an absolute superstar.

[liz]

Last night I watched part of the tape of last weekend's Richmond game again and had a bit of a chuckle over "Expert Walls'" comments. In that game he kept going on about how Hall should come out to CHB, and how he'd be more effective there than at FF. Yet during the commentary in the Essendon game all we heard was how he was a more effective FF and should go back to the goal square, and get O'Loughlin and Davis further up the ground. To be fair to Walls, some of these comments seemed predicated on who his opponent was and where they'd feel less comfortable. But surely a coach should use his key spearhead in the role where he wants him, not based on the opponent?

Fact is, he can be effective in either position, though I generally think he plays his best footy around the CHF where he has more room to move and use his aggression. And after seeing him kick that huge long goal in the 3rd quarter against the Bombers there's no reason why he can't contribute just as well on the scoreboard from out there.

[Dave]

Originally posted by lizz
Fact is, he can be effective in either position, though I generally think he plays his best footy around the CHF where he has more room to move and use his aggression.

I agree. He seems to get too much attention at FF which, considering the fact he can't buy a free, works to our disadvantage.

[Sid]

Yeah, have to agree that he should play at centre half foward. He also has more space to run around, making it easier to lose his opponent.

It seems that hes not doing well at contested marks but when he has a lead over his opponent to the ball, he rarely misses the mark.

His strength also enables him to barge through some players and pass the ball to someone else around the 50m line, like he did with Essendon.

CHF is definitely the best position for him.

[NMWBloods]

Yet during the commentary in the Essendon game all we heard was how he was a more effective FF and should go back to the goal square, and get O'Loughlin and Davis further up the ground. To be fair to Walls, some of these comments seemed predicated on who his opponent was and where they'd feel less comfortable.

I thought Walls' main issue with Hall at CHF was that it would allow Jacobs to run off him too easily.

[liz]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I thought Walls' main issue with Hall at CHF was that it would allow Jacobs to run off him too easily.

Which is why I qualified my comment somewhat. But Barry is more than capable of following his player up the ground - as he did several times against the Bomers (sic - did anyone spot the banner?) And surely Gaspar is just as capable - as indeed he tried to do against Hall.

[penga]

this is where our forward line works so well with magic back in as davis can pick up the crumbs from hall at CHF and bang a long goal and schneider can stand at magic's feet for the crumbs coming in... this is where the addition of doyle would be so good to as doyle can stand in the goal square with schneider at his feet bazza and davis at chf and get magic to lead to the pockets, so much p******** (censored, p-word)!!!!!

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by lizz
Which is why I qualified my comment somewhat. But Barry is more than capable of following his player up the ground - as he did several times against the Bomers (sic - did anyone spot the banner?) And surely Gaspar is just as capable - as indeed he tried to do against Hall.

I was differentiating the stress - I had thought most (all?) of his comments were about his opponent, whereas you had said only some of his comments. I may have missed some.

Still, I did think that a strange comment as I did see Hall upfield following Jacobs a couple of times.

I prefer Hall at CHF as he seems to be much better value - playing a Carey-type role.

[Jon]

Originally posted by lizz

Fact is, he can be effective in either position, though I generally think he plays his best footy around the CHF where he has more room to move and use his aggression. And after seeing him kick that huge long goal in the 3rd quarter against the Bombers there's no reason why he can't contribute just as well on the scoreboard from out there.

I've always felt this way about Hall....but more because he is such a great leading mark. When he leads he always ends up in this area of the ground...where even a dropped ball brings his takling into play for our smalls.

Last year we had some teething problems where we'd just drop the ball on his head, and leave him wrestling under a dumb floater as if he was Tony Lockett.

He CAN take those sort of contested marks as well as anyone...but as Tarrant has also shown this year...you can't beat a LEADING forward as goal kicking option.