Roos' long term plan for the Swans

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  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    Roos' long term plan for the Swans

    So I think 99% of people here were in favour of the plan Roos had and most were quite adament taht the plan be adhered to.

    So what now?

    You waould have to say that the finals are a bit different, and maybe blooding younger players won't happen there, but what about the remaining 5 H & A games?

    Are we all still after a long term plan and play James etc or do we look to what is possible this season and stick with what (who) we know?
    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.
  • SXP

    #2
    Well, IMHO, when you sit 2nd on the ladder after 17 rounds I would try to capitalize on that and award all the great afford the players put in by maintaining the team unchanged as much as possible and therefore wouldn't try to experiment with younger players unless it was safe to do so from the context of the game. But that's me, what Roosy is going to do, we'll have to wait and see.

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    • CureTheSane
      Carpe Noctem
      • Jan 2003
      • 5032

      #3
      I guess the other question is "have we achieved a part of that plan a couple of years early?" and if so is the 'new' plan to concentrate on cementing our top 4 position over the next few years by means of a youth type policy?
      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #4
        We have blooded more than enough young players this year. From the stocks we have (LRT, Meklejohn, Sunquist, Ablett, etc), they will be used to cover finals injuries.

        There is very little change from a normal rebuilding year, other than you might be giving the real lesser knowns a run now, and reviewing older players if finals werent a chance.

        But, we should definately be in premiership mode now. Chances dont come along very often, and you have to give it your all if you ever find yourself up there. Finals experience for the young guys that make it will be far more valuable than H&A games.

        I think James may sneak in for a game or two before the end of the year though, as he's our wild card.

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        • chammond
          • Jan 2003
          • 1368

          #5
          So what now?
          My plan is to wait and see what Roos intends to do . . . . and then agree with him.

          I'm pretty sure that will work.

          Mind you, I'd be very pleased if Roos plan included giving Ablett another chance.

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          • TheHood
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 1938

            #6
            Great thread Cure!

            I reckon we have to stick with the existing winning formula.

            I mean, the formula is in its infant stages this year, lets see how far it takes us in 2003.

            I think in 2004, with an even stronger and more experienced list it will be a tough to be beat formula. Imagine the likes of Schneides playing his 50th game in next year's prelim final and how good he will be by then...fit, fast and genuinely feared!

            Then again, if we win on the weekend, I could drop the conservative attitude and predict we are as good as favourites to play Port for the flag.
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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              I'd like the "formula" to continue for the rest of the H&A season, and continue to look at giving youngsters a go. Once finals start then it can be rejigged. However, I think the important thing is to keep sight of Roos' original objective - make us a powerhouse team for a number of years. This is the first time I've seen this as a realistic potential for a very long time. Even if we don't win this year, the finals experience will be invaluable for our guys next year and thereafter.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

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              • BAM_BAM
                Support Staff
                • Jun 2003
                • 1820

                #8
                just playing devils advocate, what happens if we win this year. Do we change our play to defend our premiership?
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                • Sanecow
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 6917

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BAM_BAM
                  what happens if we win this year
                  I get a tattoo.

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                  • cos789
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 222

                    #10
                    It's good to have a plan and for it to work.
                    Ever better to fine tune it as the need arises .
                    The whole aim is to win a premiership not a "plan".
                    Struggling clubs have a long range plan ;strong clubs plan to win the premiership .
                    give it to the game

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                    • TheHood
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1938

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cos789
                      It's good to have a plan and for it to work.
                      Ever better to fine tune it as the need arises .
                      The whole aim is to win a premiership not a "plan".
                      Struggling clubs have a long range plan ;strong clubs plan to win the premiership .

                      Make no mistake, Roosy wants a premiership and this year would be a bonus. He was being realistic in his planning and planned for a flag attempt next year and then beyond.

                      I mean does anyone think that Roosy suggested to the Board last year that he had a magic formula that no one else knows about that would result in a flag for 2003?????????????

                      I can just imagine Richard and the gents, sitting back at the close of Roosy's powerpoint preso, "well Paul you seem to have a flag planned for earlier than all the other candidates...the job is yours!"

                      A win next week will boost our stocks but we should be realistic.

                      By the way, St Kilda, Carlton, Geelong and whoever else you care to name do not have a proper plan. They might have a so called "youth policy" but not a successful comprehensive plan!
                      The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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                      • Reggi
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2718

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BAM_BAM
                        just playing devils advocate, what happens if we win this year. Do we change our play to defend our premiership?
                        Do you reckon we will have sobered up by then?
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                        • TheHood
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1938

                          #13
                          Good call Reggi...LMAO
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                          • j s
                            Think positive!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3303

                            #14
                            Re: Roos' long term plan for the Swans

                            Originally posted by CureTheSane
                            Are we all still after a long term plan and play James etc or do we look to what is possible this season and stick with what (who) we know?
                            Roos pretty much said that James will be in the side as soon as he is injury free, probably in short bursts to give Goodes a rest from the ruck. Mieklejohn too as soon as his face is healed.

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                            • Charlie
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4101

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Reggi
                              Do you reckon we will have sobered up by then?
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