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  • SWANSBEST
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    AFL to 'bank' MCG finals

    AFL to 'bank' MCG finals
    6:32:34 PM Fri 1 August, 2003
    Paul Gough
    afl.com.au
    There may yet be a weekend free of finals football in Melbourne this season with the AFL set to play both semi-finals away from the MCG if two non-Victorian clubs earn the right to host them.

    The AFL is considering risking falling temporarily behind in its finals obligations to the Melbourne Cricket Club in order to ensure it can better reward the dominant non-Victorian club with home finals this season.

    Depending on which teams earn home state advantage in the second week of the finals - the AFL announced on Friday it may play both semi-finals interstate if, for example, Adelaide and West Coast had earned the right to host those matches.

    ?If the two highest ranking clubs are non-Victorian, both finals will be scheduled in the home state of those clubs," AFL chief executive Wayne Jackson said in making the surprise announcement late on Friday.

    "(But) if one of the highest ranking clubs playing in week two is from Victoria, that final will be played at the MCG.

    "The fundamental principle of scheduling finals is that clubs which earn the right to host a final in their home state should be able to do so.

    ?We believe this passes the ultimate test of what is fair to the clubs concerned and their supporters by giving them an opportunity to see a final live in their home state should their club earn that right.

    "Under the terms of our contract with the Melbourne Cricket Club, if both finals are scheduled outside Victoria in week two, we will make up the number of finals games at the MCG in 2004."

    This means there could be just three of the nine finals played in Melbourne this season ? either a qualifying or elimination final in week one, one of the two preliminary finals in week three and the grand final.

    Earlier this year the AFL had indicated it would play one final per week at the MCG this September, regardless of which clubs had finished higher on the ladder, because it did not want to risk ?owing? the MCC more finals in the future.

    Under the AFL?s previous agreement with the MCC it was contracted to play one final per week at the MCG ? regardless of which teams were involved.

    But under their new agreement with the MCC ? negotiated last year ? the AFL now only has to play one preliminary final and the grand final at the MCG in any one season if it chooses.

    In terms of the first two weeks of the finals it now has to play six at the MCG over any three year period - giving it the right to ?bank? finals in either the positive or the negative if it chooses.

    So if the AFL only chose to play one final at the MCG this season over the first two weeks of this year?s finals series, it would then have to play five finals over the first two weeks of September in the following two seasons.

    But the AFL?s initial fear was if it chose to cut back on its number of MCG finals this season ? in a year when all six non-Victorian clubs are a chance to make the finals in the same year for the first time ? it could find itself in an even worse position in terms of scheduling if the same situation occurred again next year.

    However in contrast it would have no problems making up the extra final next year if Victorian teams were to dominate the top of the ladder, as was the case in 1995 when all nine finals that season were played in Victoria.

    The news the AFL will now play more finals outside Victoria is a huge boost to the non-Victorian sides, who would be severely disadvantaged if they were forced to play a ?home? final at the MCG.

    While Adelaide was able to beat Melbourne in such circumstances at the MCG last season, on the two other occasions such a scenario unfolded it resulted in heavy defeats for West Coast in knockout semi-finals against Essendon in 1996 and Carlton in 1999.

    Under the AFL?s finals system, the teams that finish in first, second, fifth and sixth positions are entitled to home state advantage in the first week of the finals while in semi-final week ? home state advantage goes to the losers of the two qualifying finals played between teams one and four and teams two and three.

    However one preliminary final will still be definitely played at the MCG this season ? even if four non-Victorian clubs end up reaching the penultimate week of the season ? under the terms of the AFL?s finals agreement with the MCC.



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  • aflconvert
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    #2
    Re: AFL to 'bank' MCG finals

    Originally posted by SWANSBEST
    AFL to 'bank' MCG finals
    6:32:34 PM Fri 1 August, 2003
    Paul Gough
    afl.com.au



    But the AFL?s initial fear was if it chose to cut back on its number of MCG finals this season ? in a year when all six non-Victorian clubs are a chance to make the finals in the same year for the first time ? it could find itself in an even worse position in terms of scheduling if the same situation occurred again next year.

    However in contrast it would have no problems making up the extra final next year if Victorian teams were to dominate the top of the ladder, as was the case in 1995 when all nine finals that season were played in Victoria.



    http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=new...ticleid=109974
    I'm not in favour of this borrowing idea. Sure the current rule is unfair and it could hit us but ... Like the article says its taking a gamble that the next season will be dominated by Victorian clubs

    And I'd be really *** off if in 2004 the Swans finished 2nd and had to play away from home so the AFL could pay back the game some other interstate club got as a home game in 2003 when they weren't entitled to it in 2003 (under an unfair rule )


    The least unfair thing is whoever has to miss a home game this seaons thats just their bad luck

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    • Cheer Cheer
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      #3
      Yes if they keep putting off finals in melbourne we are going to end up with a hell of i.o.u's to the mcg which will be terrible as I cant see any change to the eight for the next couple of years -
      I see all the interstate sides in there.
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      • Charlie
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        #4
        Why can't they just re-imburse the MCC for money lost, and be done with it?
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        • DaveW
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          #5
          Re: AFL to 'bank' MCG finals

          It's interesting that the AFL keeps changing its policy. Only a month ago they said that there would be a final at the MCG every week. Now they say they'll bank a semi. Yet they still won't bank a first week final, how does that work?

          And why is the AFL willing to play two semi finals outside Victoria this year, but they wouldn't award Adelaide with their home semi last year?

          Pack of bankers!

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          • bloodboy
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            • Jul 2003
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            #6
            The stupid bloody AFL making that ridiculous agreement with the MCC. Who the hell signs a contract for that long? Must have been a smart unch who signed that extra huge contract! I love the MCG and I am all for the home of Aussie Rules Footy having a definite place in the AFL Finals every year but if they want a truly national competition they should get rid of the stupid agreement.
            Go you mighty BLOODBOYS!

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            • barry
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              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              IMO, its the sydney factor thats changed the policy. Now that the season is a bit further on, there is a fair chance the that Sydney could have been the one that had to move.
              The market is far to important to risk it.

              I'm not too worried about going into debt. Every year there are at least 2 sides who made the 8 the previous year who dont make it again. Next year that could easily be 2 non-vic sides, in which case we wont have to really worry about home finals.

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              • Ripper
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                #8
                As I pointed out on Bigfooty it is a good thing as any Victorian Side will HAVE to finnish top 2 to avoid travelling.

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                • BAM_BAM
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                  • Jun 2003
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Charlie
                  Why can't they just re-imburse the MCC for money lost, and be done with it?
                  exactly!!!!!!
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                  • footyhead
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                    • May 2003
                    • 1367

                    #10
                    this is all political.
                    every year the crisis goes on the more pressure is put on the MCC.
                    If they bank a final or 2 this year and the same thing happens , sooner or later the screams for equality will become so loud that the army will be called in and the MCC trust made public enemy number 1 and brandished as terrorists and shipped to Guantanamo Bay. And that is as should be for what they are trying to do to our beautifull national competition. They are not in the national interest and as such sould be targeted as the enemy.
                    Also comercially the pressure builds on them as well, as long as sydney is in the Eight. The longer it goes on the more they will loose. mark my words. In fact if they are really selfish we might see the Grand final played at Stadium Oz within the next 5 years.
                    With the prime minister stepping in to resolve the issue.

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                    • SXP

                      #11
                      Let me remind people that the agreement between AFL (or VFL at that time) was signed in exchange for redevelopment of MCG that needed urgent repaires. I believe at that time AFL didn't have enough money to finance it hence we have now that silly contract. Of course some stupid Victorian arrogance and people with complete lack of vision also helped.
                      The only thing that would help I suppose is to reimburse MCG for the missed finals as Charlie suggested earlier in this thread. Surely there must be some money left from selling all those media rights to finance it.
                      Unless everything was gobbled up by Telstra Dome.

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                      • footyhead
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                        • May 2003
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                        #12
                        The AFL is rich and could easily pay, But jsut as all good buisness men know, you can't be paying out for things all the time or you don't stay rich. The AFL is basically a bank and like all banks, they want everybody elese to pay for everything. Even their own f u ck ups !!

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                        • penga
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by footyhead
                          screams for equality will become so loud that the army will be called in and the MCC trust made public enemy number 1 and brandished as terrorists and shipped to Guantanamo Bay
                          LOL

                          just accuse them of having contracts of mass destruction and its alright to blow em up!
                          C'mon Chels!

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                          • SXP

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