We're Going To Struggle BIG TIME

[Gunn]

Originally posted by chammond
Sydfan83 - don't get too carried away with what's posted on this board. Bolton doesn't have that many critics - there's just a small group that love to stick the boot in every time his name is mentioned - just as there's a group that don't like Seymour, and another that doesn't like Warfe, and so on.

In case anyone doesn't yet know, I am a foundation member of the anti Warfe group. Now there is a player that has dreadful skills and hasn't improved one bit since he came to Sydney. He is my litmus test of how we are progressing. If he can get a game then the standard of our list is so low we are going nowhere.

I am not a member of any other group but I have applied for application forms for a couple of others. I'll fill them out but won't send them in just yet. :-)

[DST]

Omnipotent, I would be interested to know which club your source comes from on rating our list the worst in the league?

DST

[SWANSBEST]

Eddie has been saying plenty about the Sydney scene lately so I guess that he is the most likely source of information. He never misses an opportunity to put the boot into the Swans. The use of Nick Davis in the argument adds more weight to my theory.

[CureTheSane]

Tend to agree with Warfe being so-so
I've always been pretty unimpressed with him.
I think perhaps he should have ben delisted, but this sure is the make or break year for him.

Scott Stevens needs to bulk up more on last year if he is to be any sort of target in the goal square.

[TheHood]

Scott Stevens needs to bulk up more on last year if he is to be any sort of target in the goal square.

Good point CTS. Scott is deceptively tall and has good insticnts and skills so if he can find an extra 10 or 15kgs, plus some wild courage, he would be a real force up forward.

I'd love to see a foward line of:

Davis Doyle Stevens
O'Loughlin Hall Goodes/Ball

There are a few avenues to goal here.

[shearer]

Good to see have mentioned Warfe as skill deficient.I once heard this by an ex-swans player who was talking about the best kick at the swans.

He replied "If it was Derek Kickett kicking you would lead to were u wanted to kick the goal from, Kevin Dyson was just as good, but if Rowan Warfe had the nut it was a case of lead and pray that he got it within 100m of you"....i think that says it all.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by TheHood
Good point CTS. Scott is deceptively tall and has good insticnts and skills so if he can find an extra 10 or 15kgs, plus some wild courage, he would be a real force up forward.

I'd love to see a foward line of:

Davis Doyle Stevens
O'Loughlin Hall Goodes/Ball

There are a few avenues to goal here.

And.... who will play in the ruck?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Charlie
And.... who will play in the ruck?

Goodes, Ball and Doyle would rotate.

[penga]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Goodes, Ball and Doyle would rotate.

if lumbering rookie ricky could carry our ruck division last year why couldnt our new rookie in meiklejohn be used? does anyone have an insight on this fella??? i cant wait to the 16th where we can see for ourselves!!!

we could potentially end up with a very large team the way we are drafting ie potentially hypothetically speaking:

b: Schauble (192) LRT (196) James (189)
hb: Nicks (185) Saddington (194) Dempster (189)
c: Kennelly (190) Goodes (191) O'Mohaney (190)
hf: Meiklejohn (197) Hall (194) Hunt (192)
f: O'loughlin (188) Doyle (203) Stevens (192)
ball: Ball (200) C Bolton (188) Sundqvist (188)
int: Powell (190) O'Keefe (187) Macleski (186) Warfe (189)

imagine the matchup problems that would create, ie on the height basis and taking away all skills of course...

thanks lizz, however u may have to edit your post now...

[desredandwhite]

That side would be slaughtered if it rained

Also, don't forget Ricky Mott was 20/21 when he was drafted. An extra couple of years to bulk up and play in a state league would have really helped him out early last year..

[liz]

Originally posted by penga
if lumbering rookie ricky could carry our ruck division last year why couldnt our new rookie in meiklejohn be used? does anyone have an insight on this fella??? i cant wait to the 16th where we can see for ourselves!!!

we could potentially end up with a very large team the way we are drafting ie potentially hypothetically speaking:

b: Schauble (192) LRT (196) Powell (190)
hb: James (189) Saddington (194) Dempster (189)
c: Kennelly (190) Goodes (191) O'Mohaney (190)
hf: Meiklejohn (197) Hall (194) Hunt (192)
f: O'loughlin (188) Doyle (203) Stevens (192)
ball: Ball (200) C Bolton (188) Sundqvist (188)
int: Powell (190) O'Keefe (187) Macleski (186) Warfe (189)

imagine the matchup problems that create, ie on the height basis and taking away all skills of course...

Powell might struggle a bit there - unless we've cloned him. But in order for it to be a totally balanced team, maybe just slip Schneider or Crouch in there. On the bench only of course - wouldn't want to upset the starting balance!

Had to confess I'd always thought James was a bit taller than 189cm - though I see that's what he's officially listed at. Also, looking at those heights, it's amazing how effective Goodes has been in the ruck considering how "short" he is.

[penga]

Originally posted by lizz
But in order for it to be a totally balanced team, maybe just slip Schneider or Crouch in there. On the bench only of course - wouldn't want to upset the starting balance!

Had to confess I'd always thought James was a bit taller than 189cm - though I see that's what he's officially listed at. Also, looking at those heights, it's amazing how effective Goodes has been in the ruck considering how "short" he is.

i always thought that a 189cm fb was a bit short when everyone was saying that he is primed as the replacement for dunks... maybe the site has it wrong???

i made up a spreadsheet of all our players ages, heights and weights. some of the stats were omitted for the rookies as they havent been posted on the official site as yet regarding their height, weight, age etc and the average age was 23 (age at end of 2003 season) 186cm and 84kg. everyone included.

[Ajn]

It would help if we taught the Irish Lad to kick first.

[penga]

sydney always get flogged in the rain, so i dont think that this team would be any different than current standards...

it would be good if we got some more rain during the preseason so that we might actually work out how to play in the wet...

[Ajn]

that's why they fixed the scg bog problem, although in '96.....