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  • snajik
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1115
    #1

    What we knew all along

    An interesting stats table was shown on Fox Footy last night (FFLT) that reflected the season stats for free kicks awarded to teams in their own forward 50. (Barnesy had trouble discerning whether it was for the whole season or last week's games).

    Alas, my 3rd class speed reading level didn't allow me to read and retain the entire table, but I do recall that the Bloods were sitting 15th with 33 for the year (Bazza has had 2 all year).

    Melbourne was on top with 59(?), Carlton (?) second on 58 (hasn't helped them awfully much). Of course, those arrogant thugs from Port are up near the top. I imagine Wanganeen has picked up in excess of 50 on his lonesome. (He'd only need to remind the umpire that he hasn't had one for almost fifteen minutes - and bingo).

    The only team below us (on 32) was Collingwood. Stands to reason really. After all the whole world despises them. Even white maggots it seems.
    It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
    The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan
    Tags: knew, Swans, sydney
    • TheHood
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 1938
      #2
      Yes I caught this stat last night too.

      According to my calcs, we have been getting one free less per game than say the Dees!

      I noticed the Lions were right up there too. Lynchy can pull them from anywhere. When he is no chance at a mark, he just starts a wrestle then evolves as a victim and falls flat when the ball is less than 10 metres away, and WHALLA! Free! What has he got to lose?

      Thought Mick could have earned one or two on the weekend and Baz misses at least one a game.

      Can we send Baz up to Brisbane during the offseason to get bible lessons from Alistair!
      The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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        • midaro
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 1042
          #3
          The stat I'd like to see, is the number of goals conceded through free kicks.

          We'd have to be near the top in that one!

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            • penga
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2601
              #4
              Originally posted by midaro
              The stat I'd like to see, is the number of goals conceded through free kicks.

              We'd have to be near the top in that one!
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              C'mon Chels!

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                • snajik
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1115
                  #5
                  BUMP.

                  Not that we deserved to win by any stretch of the imagination, however, the trend it seems, continues.
                  It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                  The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                    • lizz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16844
                      #6
                      I know the umpires had absolutely no impact on the result on Saturday but there was one particular free kick against us (that resulted in a Hawks goal) that had me angered and puzzled. Normally I'd look at it on the tape to see whether it makes sense close up but that particular video has already been consigned to the recycling pile.

                      The one I'm referring to is the holding the ball decision against Jude. I know they are tending to penalise players who lock the ball up on the ground, particularly those who drag the ball in under them, but if that particular case was a holding the ball, surely they are penalising the player actually going for the ball. As I saw it he took possession on the ground but was wrapped up straight away in a good tackle, and was desparately trying to handball it out as other players piled on top of him. Can anyone who watched the game on TV (and thus had a better view) give me their opinion on whether that was a valid free kick against us?

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                        • sharp9
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2508
                          #7
                          Can confirm that it was a shocker. The only team in the league that can compete with the Swans for being dicked by umps this year is the Hawks....and I sat with quite a few at the pub on Saturday who ALL admitted that they got several cheapies. They couldn't believe it as it was the first time for them this year. They were well behaved about it too.

                          Also kept very quiet when the Swans were not paid a couple near goals. They sort of grimaced and shrugged their shoulders with their palms outstretched, trying not to smile.

                          We were slaughtered, yet again. I cannot understand why this is. As someone pointed out in another thread, it's not just that we have received the second least number of frees (half was brissy, the dons and Demons get) but the number of soft (or mistaken) ones paid against us both in our defensive and attacking fifties. That's the stat I would really like to see.
                          "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                            • JayTee
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 19
                              #8
                              Originally posted by lizz
                              I know the umpires had absolutely no impact on the result on Saturday but there was one particular free kick against us (that resulted in a Hawks goal) that had me angered and puzzled. Normally I'd look at it on the tape to see whether it makes sense close up but that particular video has already been consigned to the recycling pile.

                              The one I'm referring to is the holding the ball decision against Jude. I know they are tending to penalise players who lock the ball up on the ground, particularly those who drag the ball in under them, but if that particular case was a holding the ball, surely they are penalising the player actually going for the ball. As I saw it he took possession on the ground but was wrapped up straight away in a good tackle, and was desparately trying to handball it out as other players piled on top of him. Can anyone who watched the game on TV (and thus had a better view) give me their opinion on whether that was a valid free kick against us?
                              Totally correct Lizz. Absolutely amazing interpretation of the rules. The tackler at no stage attempted to get the ball. Jude was the only one who did (and showed amazing courage)As soon as Jude was tackled he moved his body away from the ball.The tackler held the ball in there. It was one of the worst decisions of the year and shows the umpire could'nt even grasp the fundamentals of the game. It also helped destroy the swans comeback. I find it interesting when I see these decisions and you look at the statisitcs on another thread that show that Sydney is at the bottom of the table when it comes to frees in the forward line. It also follows that we get compratively more frees against us on the back line. I find it highly suspicious when the results of games are so blatanlty influenced.

                              IMHO the umpire went out of his way to grant the free kick, and the other free to Rawlings would never have been paid to a swans forward , let alone BBBH(Ironically, he got one of his only two free kicks for the season on the wing that night and he didn't deserve it, the double irony is that at the time we seemed to have the ball loose in the forward line and could have scored a
                              goal). Our effort was not that good, but given an even handed umpiring effort it could have been an absoluted thriller.
                              JayTee

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