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  • Plugger46
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2003
    • 3674

    #16
    Originally posted by Charlie
    Whilst I agree there is only one Tony Lockett... that doesn't mean that Barry Hall is excused for not being able to take a mark overhead his big bald head. It is what stops him from being a regularly effective forward. He either fixes it, or we continue to have a severe weakness. Weaknesses are what we need to remove.
    I agree Charlie, but Hall nor anyone can possibly be compared to Lockett, because he is arguably the best player of all time. Hall is totally different to plugger, you can't build a team around Hall like you could Lockett. You're right he's not excused, but we probably have to understand, that taking contested marks is never going to be a strong point in his game, but he does other things that are for the good of the team.

    Barry Hall is a CHF and not a FF anyway, so why anyone would compare them is beyond me, both on ability and their role within a team.
    Bloods

    "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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    • desredandwhite
      Click!
      • Jan 2003
      • 2498

      #17
      Originally posted by Plugger46


      Barry Hall is a CHF and not a FF anyway,
      Spot on. Barry isn't as strong overhead as Plugger, and doesn't have the same vice-like one-grab mark. He really should be playing more at CHF where his long leads can result in uncontested chest marks and allow him to set up long goals, or a delivery into the goalsquare.

      Bung Mick in at full-forward where he is IMHO stronger one-on-one than Barry.

      We dont' have many out and out champions left - we can't afford as many people having an off-day as many other teams can.

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #18
        Originally posted by desredandwhite
        Spot on. Barry isn't as strong overhead as Plugger, and doesn't have the same vice-like one-grab mark. He really should be playing more at CHF where his long leads can result in uncontested chest marks and allow him to set up long goals, or a delivery into the goalsquare.

        Bung Mick in at full-forward where he is IMHO stronger one-on-one than Barry.

        We dont' have many out and out champions left - we can't afford as many people having an off-day as many other teams can.
        Spot on.
        Bloods

        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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        • Charlie
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2003
          • 4101

          #19
          Um... I reckon not being able to take overhead marks is a bigger problem at CHF than at FF. Generally, when you're in the square, the ball is already near to the ground. There's a reason that Micky gets more chest marks than Baz - the ball falls into his arms. Often, at CHF, the marker actually has to chop off kicks that have too much penetration to hit their target - it's easier for a midfielder to kick 40m than 30m. Hence, we see Bazza going for more overhead marks than Micky.

          Bazza needs to take them, or its a wasted inside50. But they go slightly over his head, and suddenly he's not a chance in hell because of his ridiculously buttery fingers. At the moment, Baz is better off at CHF, because he is our most imposing forward. But if we got another KPP forward, I'd want Baz to go back to FF - where he might actually mark the thing.
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          • aflconvert
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2003
            • 100

            #20
            Re the loss of retired players - why bother to mention Tony Lockett 2002 version at all ? He only played 1 or 2 games in his attempted comeback and then retired mid-season

            That's hardly a loss.

            Dont get me wrong - There is only one Tony Lockett and he deserved his spot in TOC . His retirement after 1999 season was a loss but not his 2002 second retirement

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            • Plugger46
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2003
              • 3674

              #21
              Originally posted by aflconvert
              Re the loss of retired players - why bother to mention Tony Lockett 2002 version at all ? He only played 1 or 2 games in his attempted comeback and then retired mid-season

              That's hardly a loss.

              Dont get me wrong - There is only one Tony Lockett and he deserved his spot in TOC . His retirement after 1999 season was a loss but not his 2002 second retirement
              He played 3 games and was really stiff, it should have been a success but that's another story. But we were not talking about him last year, and neither was Roosey, he was talking about him in his prime mate.
              Bloods

              "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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