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  • gossipcom
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 2585

    #16
    The AFL Report - Willo did testify after all <g>

    Holland's guilty plea earns two-match ban
    7:04:14 PM Tue 26 August, 2003
    Samantha Lane
    afl.com.au
    Collingwood?s Brodie Holland will miss one final, after receiving a two-match suspension for striking Sydney?s Paul Williams to the face.

    The Magpie tagger, who was an emergency throughout his side?s 2002 finals campaign and has never played in a final, will now wait anxiously as his side attempts to claim a top four spot and qualify to play in the second week in September. It that case, he would also have to reclaim his position in the side.



    Holland pleaded guilty to the video charge, laid by umpire Matthew James following Saturday night?s match at Telstra Stadium, but claimed his blow was a retaliation to a strike the Sydney player had dealt him.

    It is the third time in six seasons that Holland, 23, has been found guilty of striking, and the second occasion this year.

    Collingwood mounted an extensive case, which the tribunal panel deliberated over for about ten minutes, and argued Holland?s obvious strike was an automatic reaction to the unwarranted attention from Williams.

    The video evidence of the incident showed Holland making contact with Williams with a swinging right arm, in what tribunal chairman Brian Collis, QC, described as an ?off the ball? incident.

    ?We find that the reaction was an intentional and forceful blow, and although the contact may have been glancing, it was out of proportion to what preceded it,? Collis said.

    Collingwood played an extended, edited video package of the confrontation and enhanced the vision of Williams? alleged initial strike. However Holland?s player advocate Sean Carroll did not question the Sydney player about his supposedly provoking strike.

    Umpire James told the tribunal he saw blood on Holland?s lip at the quarter time break, when he warned the Magpie against making high contact with Williams? neck region.

    Holland said he felt ashamed of the incident but that he had been aggrieved by Williams? contact.

    ?I got a blow to the jaw and in an instant reaction I threw my arm back then.?

    ?Even after the incident I thought I probably shouldn?t have done that. But I didn?t hurt the player and it was nothing too untoward,? he said.

    ?I?m embarrassed about what I did and that?s not usually how I play the game.?

    Collingwood coach Michael Malthouse provided a character reference for the former Fremantle player, and said he was ?shocked and dismayed? by the media?s portrayal of Holland in the lead-up to the case.

    ?This man is playing for his life skills as much as his football skills.?

    ?I would hate to think that a young man?s progress in finals is halted by a rash action,? Malthouse said.

    Williams told the tribunal he could not recall the incident, but felt no ill-effects after the match.

    ?I felt some contact and it was enough to fall to the ground and then I got up and remonstrated,? he said via-a video link-up.

    Holland was suspended for two matches in 1998 after striking Sydney?s Daryn Cresswell, and missed round two this year after receiving a one-match ban for striking Greg Stafford.

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    • Ruda Wakening
      Survived The Meltdown
      • Aug 2003
      • 1519

      #17
      Originally posted by gossipcom

      "I was stunned, I was shocked, I got a blow to the mouth and jaw and in an instinctive reaction I threw my arm straight back," Holland said.
      Wouldn't this mean that if he hit PW with a normal immediate reflex/instinctive action, he would have contacted his face front on, not side on when PW was practically walking away ?

      Brodie must still be a bit on the slow side. It must have been a case of the old delayed reaction .

      Karma Brodie, karma ...
      Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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      • SWANSBEST
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 868

        #18
        How could anyone believe a wanker like Holland who was caught in a public place pulling his pud . He has no credibility whatsoever . Holland is nothing but a king hit merchant who is very lucky to escape a sentence of at least 4 weeks.

        Unfortunately , the site is losing it's appeal with the continued presence of the mental midgets from Collingwood and a few trolling individuals from other clubs.
        WMP

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        • sharpie
          On the Rookie List
          • Jul 2003
          • 1588

          #19
          Originally posted by gossipcom
          Collingwood?s Brodie Holland will miss one final, after receiving a two-match suspension for striking Sydney?s Paul Williams to the face....

          Holland was suspended for two matches in 1998 after striking Sydney?s Daryn Cresswell...

          and missed round two this year after receiving a one-match ban for striking Greg Stafford.
          I know Stafford no longer plays for Sydney, but Holland REALLY hates the Swans, doesnt he!
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          • j s
            Think positive!
            • Jan 2003
            • 3303

            #20
            He seems to have a thing about Swans players. All his sispension have been for striking either current (Willo and Cressa) or past (Stafford) Swans players.

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            • lizz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16778

              #21
              LOL - he may or may not have been retaliating, but as Ruda points out, it certainly wasn't an instinctive reaction unless he has the reaction time of a snail.

              Wonder if he has something against Swans / ex Swans players, given the three players he's been suspended for striking. Did we reject him at some time when he had his heart set on playing for us?

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              • TheHood
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 1938

                #22
                I thought the sentence was rather lite. I reckon he should have been tried in QLD with say Tony Abbott organising the funding, Brodie might have been back for Rd 22 2004.
                The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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                • gossipcom
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2585

                  #23
                  Lmao!

                  Actually the reason I was more surprised with the fact he only got two weeks was because it was his second offense of the season. He'd already been outed for one match at the beginning of the season for a similiar offense - you'd think the judiciary would realise this - but nope.

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                  • TheHood
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1938

                    #24
                    IMO it was his second offence for the game! Thighs my buttocks, I mean arse!
                    The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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                    • gossipcom
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 2585

                      #25
                      Originally posted by TheHood
                      IMO it was his second offence for the game! Thighs my buttocks, I mean arse!
                      lol wasn't it his 3rd offence in the game?

                      From what Willo was saying to his teammates after the match, he copped one in the first quarter (which caused the umpires to talk to Cressa and Willo after that qtr I noticed) then he coped the smash in the head (2 weeks worth) plus the knees.

                      They definitely was tussling with each other all throughout the night, which Holland took a little bit further than allowed.

                      Nadine

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                      • penga
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2601

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TheHood
                        IMO it was his second offence for the game! Thighs my buttocks, I mean arse!
                        it was thighs, i was showing my dad the incidents as reported on the couch and slowed down the footage and holland's knees actually glance willo and it is his thighs that hit him

                        however two weeks is lame! imagine if bazza did that, he'd get about 10!

                        the tribunal is a joke!
                        C'mon Chels!

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                        • gossipcom
                          Senior Player
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2585

                          #27
                          This saga gets even better.

                          Channel Nine news just said that even the Pies thought he'd get 4 weeks but used the evidence that Williams provoked him (the footage they showed was Williams pulling at Holland's jersey) which subsequently caused the suspension to be lighter.

                          They're also considering legal action against HS for publishing that article about Holland being a dirty player and targeting players, etc.

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                          • dawson
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1007

                            #28
                            Where was the mystery star character witness?

                            Scott Camporeale

                            Then, maybe the fiend would have got what he deserved.

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                            • robbieando
                              The King
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2750

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jason Nevins
                              That's what the timekeeper said to himself on Saturday Night to help him sleep.
                              Don't you know that the Swans have no say in the timekeepers, nor do we provide the timeclock?????

                              The AFL appoints the timekeepers and Channel 10 (or whatever network is covering the match) provides the timeclock.

                              In anycase I hardly see what this has to do with Holland hitting Willo when Willo wasn't looking and now thats not only against the rules (and no free kick was paid for it surprise surprise), but it is also classed as assult.

                              So Holland should count himself very lucky he got 2 weeks because if he broke Willo's jaw, not only would he of got more, he would of found himself in court
                              Once was, now elsewhere

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                              • dawson
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1007

                                #30
                                Maybe they were fearful of his father going on the Footy Show like David Cloke did last year and that is why it was so light.

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