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  • SWANSBEST
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 868

    Swans next superclub??????

    Fans jump on Sydney bandwagon

    By TIM MORRISSEY

    September 18, 2003

    THE Swans are on the verge of becoming the AFL's latest superclub with membership booming and cash rolling in as they drive towards a grand final berth.



    New Swans chief executive Myles Baron-Hay says the Swans' surprising success in 2003 could see Sydney's membership double next year.


    "It's not unrealistic to think that we can get to a 40,000 membership within a year," said Baron-Hay, who set about rebuilding the Swans off the field last month.


    A 40,000-strong membership would put the Swans in the same league as AFL heavyweights Adelaide (47,097) and Collingwood (40,455) as well as making them a colossal force in the congested multi-code football city of Sydney.


    Last night more than 70,000 tickets had been sold for Saturday night's preliminary final against the Brisbane Lions.


    The match is almost certain to be an 80,500 sell-out at Telstra Stadium and Channel 10 expects a national TV audience of more than one million viewers.


    These factors alone provide massive building blocks for the Swans looking to 2004 and beyond.


    Swans coach Paul Roos said he was thrilled at the prospect of his young team having a capacity crowd behind them.


    "I'm hoping that by Saturday night it will be a sell-out and that will be fantastic for the Swans and for Sydney," he said.


    Baron-Hay knows it's a bold prediction for the Swans to be one of the most followed teams in the AFL, but his views have sound foundations given the club's 1997 experience.


    "The 1996 Swans membership was around 9500 but after making the grand final in 1997 the club's membership had grown to 22,000," said Baron-Hay.


    Sydney are on the verge of repeating 1996 and have the potential to go one better if they can beat the reigning dual premiers.



    Win or lose it's been a remarkable turnaround for a club not only on the field but off it.


    Only three months ago chairman Richard Colless described the Swans' financial position as "genuinely life threatening" if the club didn't receive a one-off $1.5 million grant from the AFL.


    However, in the past few months Sydney's bottom line has improved by at least $1 million, thanks largely to a 24.7 per cent jump in attendances from last year. "There's been a significant improvement although there's still a long way to go," said Baron-Hay.


    "The latter half of the year has been significantly better than we budgeted for, but going forwards we need to be consistently profitable and financially strong and independent."


    The key to that is building the Swans membership and sponsorship base. "We are working hard on the membership . . . we are looking to launch a membership drive in early October at a time when AFL is still part of people's short-term memory," said Baron-Hay.


    "The offer includes a flexible payment plan, a Swans advantage card, a premiership club membership giving you preferred access to finals tickets and a raft of other benefits.


    "The team's onfield performances are really going to help us throughout that drive."


    WMP
  • Bart
    CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
    • Feb 2003
    • 1360

    #2
    Re: Swans next superclub??????

    Originally posted by SWANSBEST

    New Swans chief executive Myles Baron-Hay says the Swans' surprising success in 2003 could see Sydney's membership double next year.


    "It's not unrealistic to think that we can get to a 40,000 membership within a year," said Baron-Hay, who set about rebuilding the Swans off the field last month.
    Calm down new fella, don't be getting ahead of yourself

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    • j s
      Think positive!
      • Jan 2003
      • 3303

      #3
      It would mean a LOT more games at SA as that many members would not fit into the SCG. They will probably offer a "StadeOz Only" membership category to overcome the capacity problem at the SCG. That's also a way to reduce the initial financial commitment to new (and perhaps not yet sure) fans.
      Last edited by j s; 18 September 2003, 07:48 AM.

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      • Bart
        CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
        • Feb 2003
        • 1360

        #4
        Originally posted by j s
        They will probably offer a "StadeOz Only" membership category to overcome the capacity problem at the SCG. That's also a way to reduce the initial financial commitment to new (and perhaps not yet sure) fans.
        There is already. The Stad Oz 3 match pass

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        • j s
          Think positive!
          • Jan 2003
          • 3303

          #5
          Originally posted by Bart
          There is already. The Stad Oz 3 match pass
          Did they do that THIS year? I don't remember hearing about it.

          But that is NOT a membership package which is what I was talking about - a similar deal but sold as a membership instead of just tickets.

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          • Ajn
            Draft Scout
            • Jan 2003
            • 711

            #6
            A little way off yet! Potentially it is a possibility though. It would be interesting to see how they would manage the SCG with 40000 members!
            Staying ahead of the game...

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            • lizz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16778

              #7
              Articles like this one get me seriously worried about whether the administration is taking its eye off the ball.

              If Sydney is going to become a "superclub" it needs a period of sustained success on-field. That means doing what North Melbourne did in the mid to late 90s - ie making the prelim year after year after year and a couple of premierships thrown in for good measure.

              At the beginning of the season we were entering on a rebuilding phase to develop a squad that could challenge the likes of the Lions and Power. We're still early along on that journey, despite what's happened this year. I truly believe, given the state of the other teams still in the comp and the form of our guys, that we can go all the way this year. But even if we do, its still possible that we will sink down next season, as greater inconsistency creeps into some of the younger, developing players, we suffer more injuries to key players during the season, or just plain bad luck comes our way.

              Roos has to be allowed to continue with developing his squad from the ground up. The club MUST learn from what happened post-96 and resist the temptation to just top the list up with quick fix players.

              If not, we'll be sitting here in 6 or 7 years, on the brink of a grand final in the first year of a new coach who has inspired the players to play for him, lamenting how Roos' message went stale and he didn't trust in his younger players, and how we have no quality youth but lots of ageing mid-range stars. That's not the future I want.

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              • Rizzo
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2003
                • 655

                #8
                Spot on Lizz. Hopefully Roos and Ireland will keep doing the job regardless.

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                • Charlie
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4101

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lizz
                  Articles like this one get me seriously worried about whether the administration is taking its eye off the ball.

                  If Sydney is going to become a "superclub" it needs a period of sustained success on-field. That means doing what North Melbourne did in the mid to late 90s - ie making the prelim year after year after year and a couple of premierships thrown in for good measure.

                  At the beginning of the season we were entering on a rebuilding phase to develop a squad that could challenge the likes of the Lions and Power. We're still early along on that journey, despite what's happened this year. I truly believe, given the state of the other teams still in the comp and the form of our guys, that we can go all the way this year. But even if we do, its still possible that we will sink down next season, as greater inconsistency creeps into some of the younger, developing players, we suffer more injuries to key players during the season, or just plain bad luck comes our way.

                  Roos has to be allowed to continue with developing his squad from the ground up. The club MUST learn from what happened post-96 and resist the temptation to just top the list up with quick fix players.

                  If not, we'll be sitting here in 6 or 7 years, on the brink of a grand final in the first year of a new coach who has inspired the players to play for him, lamenting how Roos' message went stale and he didn't trust in his younger players, and how we have no quality youth but lots of ageing mid-range stars. That's not the future I want.
                  Lizz... you're scaring me!

                  It's true what you say though... we need to treat this year as a pleasant surprise, but one that mustn't change our plans.
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                  • jixygirl
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 432

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lizz

                    If not, we'll be sitting here in 6 or 7 years, on the brink of a grand final in the first year of a new coach who has inspired the players to play for him, lamenting how Roos' message went stale and he didn't trust in his younger players, and how we have no quality youth but lots of ageing mid-range stars. That's not the future I want.
                    That should never be allowed to happen. I also think our new exec. is a bit over the top, predicting 40,000 members next year.
                    Sydney Swans Premiers 2005 - The Mighty Bloods

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      #11
                      I thought the membrship was capped in Sydney to allow walk in general public to the games?

                      Talk of a super team should only be taken in the cotext of one day having 40,000 members.

                      Hawthorn thought they were a superteam in the 70s/80s, and then they nearly merged.

                      Simply, a superteam is one that is managed soundly and markets itself well.

                      Of course on field success matters, but a good administration with keep the team alive without this for periods of time.
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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