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  • Dpw
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    • Jan 2003
    • 829

    Richardson a Swan?

    Heard on the news this morning Richo having talks with swans, hope its just talk!@.
  • DST
    The voice of reason!
    • Jan 2003
    • 2705

    #2
    Re: Richardson a Swan?

    Originally posted by Dpw
    Heard on the news this morning Richo having talks with swans, hope its just talk!@.
    Probably just another beat up, but why are you hoping it is just talk.

    We all know the bloke has talent, it is just not the right enviroment at Richmond for him to show that talent. IMHO opposition supporters can be too harsh a critic on other teams players.

    I would bring him to Sydney as a CHB and set him a task each week and take the pressure off him to preform as A forward.

    Imagine his marking power & rebound as a CHB?

    This man could be the missing link in our quest for the 2004 cup.

    DST
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    • lizz
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      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16737

      #3
      Please, please no.

      He'll be 29 by the start of next season and is the biggest sook going around. And if Richmond do trade him they'll be looking for a bit in return so they can secure all the superstars they're expecting to sign up in the off-season.

      We do not need to top up the list with overpaid, underperforming and ageing "stars" from clubs like Melbourne.

      No way is he the missing link to us winning a premiership in the near future. For all its critics, our defence stood up fine this year, as it has most seasons. The games we lost were because we weren't able to get a winning score on the board, not because we conceded too many goals. And with the most efficient forward line going around, that indicates that its a ball-winner or two in the middle we need so that we can get the ball forward more often for Magic, Hall, Davis et al to strut their stuff.

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      • Chubby Muffler
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        • Sep 2003
        • 235

        #4
        We have bigger problems than the foreward line - he would be a wasted purchase.

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        • barry
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          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #5
          ruck ?

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          • Chubby Muffler
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            • Sep 2003
            • 235

            #6
            Ruck for sure, Goodes does a supreme job but he is more effective elsewhere. We could also do with a strong defender.

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            • BAM_BAM
              Support Staff
              • Jun 2003
              • 1820

              #7
              As a backman his strong marking ability wouldn't be wasted, but what scares me is when he does get beaten and lies on the ground not following through and chasing as hard as possible to rectify the problem. Even at 29, if we could guarentee he'd get his act together, he'd be a very handy player
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              • Chubby Muffler
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                • Sep 2003
                • 235

                #8
                Would he be happy at the back? At 29 would he really fit in with the side, we wouldn't want to go back to trading our picks for old blokes again.

                Maybe we could see if Rocca is interested in coming back and sorting out out ruck. He may have realised just how big a mistake he made.....

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                • Wardy
                  The old Boiler!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 6676

                  #9
                  NO NO NO - NO RICHARDSON PLEASE!!!!

                  He is overated & too inconsistant!

                  Is too full of himself to be a real team player (or is that being a bit harsh?)
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                  • BAM_BAM
                    Support Staff
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1820

                    #10
                    CM I agree, that's the big problem with Richo, if he's not happy, he wont perform. I only agree with the playing at the back idea, as we do need more talls there, and I don't want to mess with our forward line, it works well as it is. If he were to come to us, It'd be great to play him like Brisbane do Leppitsch. A backman who plays just as well up front.

                    Personally, I'd prefer we stick to the youth policy and pick up a younger player, or groom our own from the ressies.
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                    • Chubby Muffler
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                      • Sep 2003
                      • 235

                      #11
                      Agreed on the youth policy BB, we are starting to get the dividends (if alot earlier than anyone thought) of sticking with younger players. You could be right playing him like Leppitsch but too much of a risk. Why create a position for this guy, he would be expensive too. We dont NEED Richardson, I guess that's the best way I can put it.

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                      • DST
                        The voice of reason!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2705

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BAM_BAM
                        CM I agree, that's the big problem with Richo, if he's not happy, he wont perform. I only agree with the playing at the back idea, as we do need more talls there, and I don't want to mess with our forward line, it works well as it is. If he were to come to us, It'd be great to play him like Brisbane do Leppitsch. A backman who plays just as well up front.

                        Personally, I'd prefer we stick to the youth policy and pick up a younger player, or groom our own from the ressies.
                        Who said we would be throwing out our youth policy if we drafted Richo?

                        If Richo is on the market it probably is becuase Richmond are chasing a number of players and need the room in their salary cap. If the deal can be done where we keep our first round draft pick but pick up the payments (we have the room) then it would be a great deal.

                        Yes the defence did will this year, but the fact is we were one injury away (Schuable or Bolton) from total oblivion. We would have ended up playing young guys on experienced big men when they were not up to it, which is a sure fire way of destroying their confidence and seriously harming their developement.

                        The fact of the matter is we need a KPP backman right now. If that happens to be a Richo at 29, a Danny Jacobs or Ben Holland I don't care, we need the body to fill the spot now.

                        Mature big blokes who have proven they can play in the big time and drag down contested markes don't grow on trees, if he is available then we need to talk to him.

                        DST
                        Last edited by DST; 30 September 2003, 02:32 PM.
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                        • desredandwhite
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2498

                          #13
                          It'll all come down to cost. What will it cost us in terms of money and trades? If we got him for nothing, then SURE I'd welcome him into the team with open arms. Plenty of talent, no one is denying that - and even at 29 can still offer something.

                          But I suspect it will cost too much. I'm sure some other club will be more desperate for his services (a la Wayne Carey).

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                          • j s
                            Think positive!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 3303

                            #14
                            Re: Re: Richardson a Swan?

                            Originally posted by DST
                            Probably just another beat up, but why are you hoping it is just talk.

                            We all know the bloke has talent, it is just not the right enviroment at Richmond for him to show that talent. IMHO opposition supporters can be too harsh a critic on other teams players.

                            I would bring him to Sydney as a CHB and set him a task each week and take the pressure off him to preform as A forward.

                            Imagine his marking power & rebound as a CHB?

                            This man could be the missing link in our quest for the 2004 cup.

                            DST
                            Noooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh!!

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                            • lizz
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                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16737

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DST

                              Yes the defence did will this year, but the fact is we were one injury away (Schuable or Bolton) from total oblivion.

                              We've been pretty much in oblivion for the past 70 years. Roos' strategy is meant to be about trying a different way to get out of that.

                              The team coped without Saddo for much of the year, and without Ball and Magic at the business end of the season. Most of the time, someone else stood up.

                              Surely the future answer to the defence has got to come from the likes of Powell, LRT, Hunt, Dempster, James. They won't all make it but there are some decent options there. And if none is up to it, lets find another long term option via drafting and patience, even if it takes some time. Or at least through a more astute trade than for a 29 yo with no track record of playing as a key defender and with a tendency towards histrionics.

                              I'd rather have that year down the bottom, if that's what it takes, while the youngsters find their way, than settle for more years of mid-table mediocrity.

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