What are we going to do with Saddo?

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  • Craig
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 225

    #16
    Originally posted by Plugger46
    When are people going to realise that Saddo is overrated?

    Every summer the club works on strengthening his muscles, but it NEVER works, and it NEVER will. We've tried that too many times, it's just his build. He continually plays on key forwards and gets an absolute towelling. Where have people been this year? I admit he's had injuries this season, but it's been exactly the same in previous years. When he moves off the key forwards, he's not even that creative.

    I would like to see him traded because we would get a good player in return (as everyone seems to rate him). But as he signed a new deal this year, I doubt he will be going anywhere. The only spot that I can see for him is a wing or HFF role.

    Because of the fact that he was a high draft pick, and he was the only one Eade played right from the word go (with virtually no reserves time), people have always rated him. He is not that good folks.

    He is not a bad kick, and has a good pair of hands, but that's about all he has got going for him.
    Totally agree.

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    • swan_song
      I'm SO over the swans!
      • Jan 2003
      • 981

      #17
      Saddo to me is an enigma. He's a talented player and a good mark, but IMHO he's played out of position, often through necessity, and his greatest weakness as a backman is actually his strength as a player -- he continually tries to outmark his opponents, when he should be punching the ball clear in contested situations. If you want a good example of great negating backplay, look at Mal Michael in the GF, or even Dunks. More often than not Dunks only marked when it was "safe" to do so, or he had a reasonable expectation of dragging it in... I'd like to see Saddo on the flank or wing. where his penchant for marking is less disadvantageous to us...
      Sure we have some great running flankers in Tadhg and Leo...but I too think that Tadhg could easily slot onto a wing or even try him as a hf flanker...we have a lot of players who are versatile in different positions...and these days anyway, players can be rotated through several positions during a game....
      My main concern though is in the ruck...and some help for willo, jude, fossie...with a gun midfielder or two.
      "Davis...Davis has kicked 2...he snaps from 40...dont tell me, dont tell me, hes kicked a goal....unbelievable stuff from Nick Davis, can you believe this, he's kicked 3 final quarter goals and Swans are within 3 points..."

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      • Plugger46
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2003
        • 3674

        #18
        Originally posted by sharp9
        Big statement, Plugger. I've been thinking along similar lines, but have decided that those words are going to come around and bite you big time.
        I really hope that happens, because anyone who plays for the bloods, I like to see play well.
        Bloods

        "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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        • Plugger46
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2003
          • 3674

          #19
          Re: What are we going to do with Saddo?

          Originally posted by Barry Schneider
          I sit next to his biggest critic everygame who points out all his errors so I might be over critical.
          Didn't know you sat with me at the footy mate. Lol
          Bloods

          "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            #20
            If so many people think that Saddo is ordinary, as has been suggested in many posts this year, why don't we just leave him in the two's until his contract runs out.

            But then again, clearly the people who arrange contracts and are closer to the players probably have a better idea where he is with his career. Some people are very harsh, given that he has been very serviceable until he copped an injury, which I believe was the first real injury of his career.

            Those who have played the game and been injured know that it takes a while to regain touch, particularly when you are up against very fit and finely tuned athletes. Lose a number of weeks of fitness and you are really up against it.

            Lets see how he comes up with a good pre season.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • Roscoe
              Warming the Bench
              • Jan 2003
              • 458

              #21
              Hey p46 you've gone from bagging Crouch, Barry and Matthews
              now you are onto Saddo.

              agree he isn't the best KPP around BUT he had a bad year with injury, before that he played nearly every game since 1997

              lets se how he goes with a injury free year.

              Only trade him if we get a first round pick, and an early one at that

              PS do you think that Rowan will survive ?
              September 24th, 2005 5.14pm
              What a great moment in all of our lives

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              • Rob-bloods
                What a year 2005 SSFC/CFC
                • Aug 2003
                • 931

                #22
                Sadd's strengths are his distribution, I always hoped he would develop into a Roos'y, ironic he's coach now, his kicking and certainly his handpass are amongst the best in the club, let's face it, he is just not cut out for the Lynch/Carey type of forward, I agree wing or hb flank is an option if he goes we want substantial compensation!
                Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun

                I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren

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                • Plugger46
                  Senior Player
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3674

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Roscoe
                  Hey p46 you've gone from bagging Crouch, Barry and Matthews
                  now you are onto Saddo.

                  agree he isn't the best KPP around BUT he had a bad year with injury, before that he played nearly every game since 1997

                  lets se how he goes with a injury free year.

                  Only trade him if we get a first round pick, and an early one at that

                  PS do you think that Rowan will survive ?
                  Just adding my views, smartarse. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine, so no need for your personal 'bashing'.

                  On a serious note, if you're up for that... I don't have anything against Saddo, I'm just merely stating the facts. I think there's a spot in the side for him, but only on a wing or HFF, as I said.

                  I don't care how many games he's played since '97, the blatant fact is that he will NEVER be a key position player, and people are deluding themselves by thinking otherwise. BTW Roscoe, I haven't just come to this conclusion, I've thought it for a long, long while.

                  As for Warfey, I would think he will probably go. With the retirements of Cressa, Frosty and possibly Seymour, he may retain his spot. If it was up to me, I would let him go as he is not the future. He deserved a crack at it in the season just gone, he'd been a good footballer from 97-2000, but then suffered injuries so people tend to forget what he did for us then. He played some footy in 2001-2002, but was always underdone. And this year he was probably just past his best, and it's very difficult to get back to where you were after virtually having 2 years on the sidelines with injuries.

                  He has never been a worldbeater, but I always admired his great courage and the way he went about his footy. A great club man.

                  He deserved a crack at it this year, but failed. The fact that he didn't get much ground time this year and therefore he was always lacking match practice, didn't help. And also because the team was performing so well, his form didn't warrant a spot, in the latter half of the season.
                  Bloods

                  "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                  • Scottee
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1585

                    #24
                    What are we going to do with Saddo? We are going to keep thats what.

                    He had a bad year. As all players do at some stage. He can fill the job at CHB most of the time. C.Bolton can do it the rest of the time with a ruckman dropping back.The day that Tarrant towelled him he did a great job for 3 quarters until we had the game won and the mid-field relaxed. The ball was being delivered beautifully to him in the last quarter, when he kicked all the goals. Bolton had the same problem when he was moved onto him.

                    If you remember the first time we beat Brisbane Saddo played an excellent game but it was also the game when he did his quad. The rest of the year he was underdone.

                    If you are keen on the idea of a lumbering CHB like Holland then think about MJ for the role.He is the same size as Holland and a lot faster on his feet.

                    Saddo has the advantage that he can also play lots of other positions, including up forward and in the ruck if need be.

                    Big, strong, fast, skilled CHBs are RARE. If they are that skilled they usually go up forward.

                    Saddo is worth his spot. The fact is that trade wise there actually isn't anyone who comes near him for CHB. Jacobs is overated and almost identical to C.Bolton in stature. We don't need him.

                    Saddo does need to get his confidence and form back though and for that I suggest a run on the wing or at half forward to shake out the cobwebs.

                    Heres to a great year in 2004 for Saddo!
                    We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                    • Scottee
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1585

                      #25
                      What are we going to do with Saddo? We are going to keep thats what.

                      He had a bad year. As all players do at some stage. He can fill the job at CHB most of the time. C.Bolton can do it the rest of the time with a ruckman dropping back.The day that Tarrant towelled him he did a great job for 3 quarters until we had the game won and the mid-field relaxed. The ball was being delivered beautifully to him in the last quarter, when he kicked all the goals. Bolton had the same problem when he was moved onto him.

                      If you remember the first time we beat Brisbane Saddo played an excellent game but it was also the game when he did his quad. The rest of the year he was underdone.

                      If you are keen on the idea of a lumbering CHB like Holland then think about MJ for the role.He is the same size as Holland and a lot faster on his feet.

                      Saddo has the advantage that he can also play lots of other positions, including up forward and in the ruck if need be.

                      Big, strong, fast, skilled CHBs are RARE. If they are that skilled they usually go up forward.

                      Saddo is worth his spot. The fact is that trade wise there actually isn't anyone who comes near him for CHB. Jacobs is overated and almost identical to C.Bolton in stature. We don't need him.

                      Saddo does need to get his confidence and form back though and for that I suggest a run on the wing or at half forward to shake out the cobwebs.

                      Heres to a great year in 2004 for Saddo!
                      We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                      • Swansinger
                        Senior Player
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1099

                        #26
                        Look , you're all missing the real point :

                        We need to put in an emergency call - AND TO HELL WITH THE COST !- and get Barry Hall's barber to work on him over the summer.
                        Then he'll be able to see the ball.

                        And if he wants to be a real Swans hero , using a barber instead of a hairdresser would be a good start.

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