Is there a Brownlow Medalist on Swan's current list?

[TheHood]

Does anyone think there is a potential medalist on our list?

Can Baz be the first FF since Pluggar to pick up the big one?

Does Paul Williams have even more to give in his remaining years to scoop up the little gold medal with one hand on the run?

Can Adam Goodes realise all of his potential for an entire season to add another accolade to his Rising Star medal?

Has Jarrod Crouch been foxing and can he make 2005 his Brownlow year?

Am I just a dillusioned one eyed Swans man with absolutely no grip on reality and do we not have any champions in our squad?

[Charlie]

I think that Willo had his best chance last year, and I'd be very surprised if he pinched one now. But who knows.

Hall will certainly be a chance if he strings his best out over a full season. If Hall kicks 6 and the Swans win by 4-5 goals, Bazza has at least 2 votes sewn up.

Tadhg and Goodes are flashy enough. Maybe one day.

I don't think Crouch is noticable enough. You have to a flashy player to win a Brownlow.

Charlie

[LondonSwan]

Goodes maybe but hard to see it. Williams is possibly past the age limit on these things but would love to see him get it.

[CureTheSane]

My picks for this year as potentials would be

Goodes
O'Loughlin
Hall
Maxfield
Fosdike

[Reggi]

The only one with a chance given all the necessary qualities is Bolton, J

[Cheer Cheer]

IMO Goodes is the standout at this stage, especially with the way he has played this year so far.

[LondonSwan]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
My picks for this year as potentials would be

Goodes
O'Loughlin
Hall
Maxfield
Fosdike

With due respect to your greater knowledge - the only 2 with realistic chances of polling well would be Hall (if he gets the score on the board) with Goodes the likely Swans top poller.

[Cheer Cheer]

I forgot to mention that i believe hall is a close second to goodes and that kenelly is one for the future at this stage

[chammond]

With due respect to your greater knowledge - the only 2 with realistic chances of polling well would be Hall (if he gets the score on the board) with Goodes the likely Swans top poller.

Why?

To be a genuine Brownlow contender, a player needs to be BOG in five or six matches. Why are Goodes and Hall the only ones with realistic chances of doing that?

O'Loughlin, Cresswell and Williams have played at those exalted levels before, and could surely do so again? And if he could ever get fit, I've no doubt that Ball could also.

Anyhow, I'm interested to know what makes Hall and Goodes such obvious standouts?

[LondonSwan]

Originally posted by chammond
Why?

To be a genuine Brownlow contender, a player needs to be BOG in five or six matches. Why are Goodes and Hall the only ones with realistic chances of doing that?

O'Loughlin, Cresswell and Williams have played at those exalted levels before, and could surely do so again? And if he could ever get fit, I've no doubt that Ball could also.

Anyhow, I'm interested to know what makes Hall and Goodes such obvious standouts?

Goodes and Hall attract attention from the umpires. Both will score votes. Hall because of his Hewitt type attitude and Goodes because he is a flashy player who attracts attention.

O''Loughlin - may score well but will need to play up to his best.

You would have to be a supreme optimist to see him win it.

Cresswell's age is against him and I cant seeing him playing as well as he did last year (Age!) and i dont remember him polling that well last year on an all in basis not just Sydney.

I think williams had his chance last year but didnt score well enough and this when his form was exceptional.

Apart from a couple of standouts the Sydney side is fairly well even and unfortunately they are going to take votes from each other .

Now I am putting you back on my ignore list .

[chammond]

Now I am putting you back on my ignore list .

I'm sorry . . . I must have missed something here. I'm sure you're being wonderfully cute and interesting, but I'm afraid it's wasted on me because I don't pay that much attention.

I'll just assume that you have an ignore list because you like to be ignorant.

[LondonSwan]

Originally posted by chammond
I'm sorry . . . I must have missed something here. I'm sure you're being wonderfully cute and interesting, but I'm afraid it's wasted on me because I don't pay that much attention.

I'll just assume that you have an ignore list because you like to be ignorant.

Neither cute nor that interesting, I put you on the ignore list because your posts are generally over the top and have, shall we say, a touch of malice. You asked a question and I answered and then you were advised that you were on the ignore list which is my right and Des has recommended it to use if you dont want to read someones opinions.

Notwithstanding, as usual you got stuck into me and that is why I prefer not to read your comments - so go for your life, sledge away.

[liz]

Originally posted by Reggi
The only one with a chance given all the necessary qualities is Bolton, J

Dunno about that Reggi - we just need to supply certain squad members with a bottle of peroxide!

More seriously, responding to the question...

Goodes I think could and possibly Fosdike if he can play consistently at just a step up from how he played at the end of last season. I'm sure he can play just slightly better - whether he can do it over a whole season remains to be seen.

While I'm sure umpires think they're being unbiased when they award votes, I'm convinced that they notice those players they expect to poll well more than others. So while it is possible to win a Brownlow "out of the blue" (which PK kind of did), more often players seem to build to it over a period of time.

In the longer term, I reckon Kennelly and Doyle might have the skills and flashiness to win. But they've still both got a long way to go.

[NMWBloods]

Goodes and Hall attract attention from the umpires. Both will score votes. Hall because of his Hewitt type attitude and Goodes because he is a flashy player who attracts attention.

I agree on Goodes. I thinkn Hall will struggle as I can't see him keeping his anger in check long enough. The only angry player I can remember winning a Brownlow is Williams, and he was so good they couldn't not give it to him.

O''Loughlin - may score well but will need to play up to his best.

You would have to be a supreme optimist to see him win it.

Yes, I can't see him developing the consistency, but would love to.

Cresswell's age is against him and I cant seeing him playing as well as he did last year (Age!) and i dont remember him polling that well last year on an all in basis not just Sydney.

I don't Cresswell has ever polled particularly well, even at his best. He just doesn't stand out for this type of award.

I think williams had his chance last year but didnt score well enough and this when his form was exceptional.

Williams missed a number of games last year, which didn't help. However, he had less players taking votes from him. Still, if we perform better this year, that may help him also. I think he's still a shot.

Apart from a couple of standouts the Sydney side is fairly well even and unfortunately they are going to take votes from each other .

Now I am putting you back on my ignore list .

And you wonder why you fight with so many people on this message board!!

[Grant]

Originally posted by Charlie
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You have to a flashy player to win a Brownlow.

Charlie [/B]

Bit like Liberatore,lol