Is there a Brownlow Medalist on Swan's current list?

[CureTheSane]

NMW is right about Cressa not polling well, that's why I left him out.
Just seems unlikely.
Willo would have to win a third B&F to win the brownlow and I think if he can't get there from the last 2 seasons, he is unlikely also.

Goodes
O'Loughlin

I rate these guys as the ones on our list who are far and above the rest as far as natural talent and smarts goes.
People seem to for get what O'Loughlin is capable of. He had a stinker last year, so suddenly he is written off.
With a good pre season, a different attitude, and most importantly, a new coach, he may star again. Of course he will have to play the best he ever has to win, but so would anyone else who has a chance.

Hall

If he can control himself he is a chance.
Obviously the biggest worry here is suspension....

Maxfield

I think he will take a big step up as captain.
Just got a good feeling about him being a real start this year.

Fosdike

Will have to continue building on his great form of late, bit of an outsider I suppose.....

[redunderthebed]

jude bolton? jude bolton?now that seriously is the biggest laugh i have had since grandma slipped over into the wet concrete as wasn't found for a month.
keep 'em coming boys ....

[CureTheSane]

Must admit, that is pretty damn funny.

Jude has never shown me that he has anything close to what it takes to win a Brownlow.
Maybe he'l gradually get better and who knows? Maybe one day, but at this stage I put him well down the list of our best players.

[NMWBloods]

I had assumed that the Jude Bolton comment was tongue in cheek, reflecting his white blonde hair. Maybe the umpires will be starry-eyed and ignore his performances like some of the girls do... nah, not likely!!

[skilts stilts]

Jude Bolton is not a ridiculous choice at least for most votes.He is fearless,hard at the ball and never drops his head.None of those qualities could be associated with Goodes,who should of been traded last year while he was still worth something. I admire your loyalty to a bloke that is unaccountable on the field and delivers the goods about once every 2 months.

[CureTheSane]

Welcome to the Twighlight Zone

A world where Jude Bolton is going to win the Brownlow, and Adam Goodes should have been traded.

Now that that crappy Kelly and useless Dunkley and Schwass have finally moved on, we will dominate.
(sarcasm mode turned off)

[TheHood]

Willo may have missed his best chance - I agree.

I think Maxey may be just too old.

One thing we have learned from the past several winners is that they have all won when they were between age 24 to age 28.

Out of all the guys going back to 1993, Wanganeen and Voss were probably the really young pups.

Baz can do it in the next 2 years I'd say or never.

I would say when Goodesy, Kennelly, Doyley, Fossey or Fixter have their best chances over the coming 5 years.

One for the trivia night: Who was Richmond's last Brownlow Medalist and what year?

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by TheHood
One for the trivia night: Who was Richmond's last Brownlow Medalist and what year?

Ian Stewart '71

[skilts stilts]

I think I left out the words "from Sydney" after "most votes" in my last post.Don't get me wrong, I don't believe for a moment that Bolton has a hope of ever winning a Brownlow but you are the eternal optimist if you are expecting a consistent quality contribution from a dud like Goodes.

[TheMase]

Originally posted by skilts stilts
I think I left out the words "from Sydney" after "most votes" in my last post.Don't get me wrong, I don't believe for a moment that Bolton has a hope of ever winning a Brownlow but you are the eternal optimist if you are expecting a consistent quality contribution from a dud like Goodes.

Goodes a dud?
Surely not

[TheHood]

Goodes a dud? Have you gone mad?

[skilts stilts]

no just an honest appraisal of what he has delivered.He has been around long enough to turn it on more than once every 6 weeks.He is as much of a tease as O'loughlin.They should have been parcelled together and off loaded.Having said that they are both extremely gifted and class footballers but utterly unreliable as week in week out major contributors.

[CureTheSane]

You, do have a point there.
Both have been incosistant of late.
I get the feeling taht Goodes has already taken the first step to hopefully a more consistant role.

Both of them really need to have set positions more IMO.
They both spent time covering deficiencies in otehr areas of the ground.
I think (hope) the Swans are starting to realise that Goodes and O'Loughlin aren't the 'out of the box' stars that they had thought.

[desredandwhite]

goodes was pretty consistent and useful in the last few weeks of the season - i HOPE that means he is beginning to realise that flashy talent is nothing without results.

I think there's hope for both of them. frustratingly, they're not so bad you would DEFINITELY offload them

[Cheer Cheer]

The day goodes an oloughlin realise their full potential and play consistenly heaven help the other 15 clubs