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  • Go Swannies
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    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    Ireland discover BBB

    Sorry,

    I couldn't work out how to post a link to:



    But the Irish Chronicle seems to realise what a winner we have in BBB. I post it below.

    I've been a bit surprised by the lack of interest to the IR game on RWO considering BBB, the Captain, Leaping and Jared featured so prominantly.


    International Rules Series: Australia take first test

    Australia deservedly won the first test of the 2003 International Rules Series in front of more than 41,000 fans in the Subiaco Oval, Perth. However, with just ten points between the sides, 56 points to 46, John O'Keeffe's men are still in with a chance of overhauling the deficit in the second and final match at the Melbourne Cricket Ground next Friday.

    Having promisingly led 11-25 after the first quarter thanks to a great goal from debutant Benny Coulter, Ireland were run ragged in the second half and were it not for two crucial saves from goalkeeper Enda Murphy the series would now surely be beyond their reach. If Ireland are to win in Melbourne, O'Keeffe will have to contain gigantic Aussie forward Barry Hall, whose stunning fielding and marksmanship proved to be a constant thorn in the Irish defence.

    The Australians dominated possession for the majority of the game but it wasn't until the third quarter, thanks to goals from Brad and Chris Johnson, that they took control on the scoreboard. The third Australian goal, coming in the final quarter from Shane Crawford, emphatically killed off the Irish challenge.

    But with the series decided by the aggregate score of the two matches, Ireland will take solace from the performances of Steven McDonnell, Sean Marty Lockhart, Padraic Joyce, Ciaran McManus and the aforementioned Coulter and Murphy. All of these players adjusted to the nuances of the game much better than the rest of the Irish team, hinting that O'Keeffe may able to fashion an improved team showing next week.

    McDonnell got Ireland's first score when he notched an over (three points) from a 45 in the second minute. A Chris Johnson behind (one point) and a Matthew Pavlich over settled the home's side's nerves. However, they were left reeling when Down star Coulter, who had been a fitness doubt before the game, burst through from midfield before selling a dummy to the defence and placing the ball calmly past 'keeper Glen Jakovich.

    The Aussies hit back with an over from Lenny Hayes, however, Armagh star McDonnell replied with a three-pointer of his own. Hall, as he would do some many times during the match, collected superbly and converted an over from the mark. A Dessie Dolan effort only yielded a behind, but soon after Padraic Joyce made no mistake with an over. McDonnell added another two overs in quick succession, both from marks, to extend Ireland's lead to 12 ? 22 points to 10. Australia followed that with a behind, before McManus elected to take an over with the goal at his mercy. The Irish went in at the hooter leading 25-11.

    The second quarter began ominously for Ireland, when Hall landed another over. A lively Australian attack caused panic in an Irish defence that just about managed to avert a shot on goal. The professionals, however, maintained their momentum with two behinds and two overs ? one from a dubious mark from Hall, who had appeared to have pushed Graham Canty. A Coulter behind made it 26-22 before a rare Irish interception in midfield allowed Kevin Hughes to race through for an over.

    The increasingly physical nature of the game, which Ireland were obviously finding difficult to cope with, was highlighted when Westmeath's Dolan was unceremoniously grounded in an apparent off-the-ball incident. After receiving much attention, Dolan eventually made it to his feet looking dazed and shook. Kieran McGeeney began to exert more influence - signalling his intent with an over from open play, putting Ireland 32-22 in front. The Armagh captain, however, would later display a more sinister side to his game when TV pictures appeared to show him punching an opponent in the stomach.

    Two behinds and a mark, the latter created by an excellent pass from the impressive Nathan Brown, saw Australia begin to claw their way back into contention. Another desperately late challenge, this time by Mark Bickley on Paul McGrane, resulted in a yellow card for the Australian as his side went in at half-time trailing by only five points, 32 to 27.

    Ireland began the crucial first half with a behind. But they still hadn't figured out how to limit Hall. After winning another mark, Hall laid off to Brown whose shot was saved by Murphy ? the ball dribbling wide for a behind. At this point Ireland looked as if they might reassert themselves but the early period of the third quarter only yielded four overs (Tom Kelly, Coulter, Beano McDonald and McDonnell) and one over (Joe Higgins). Australia themselves had managed an over in this period before their comeback began in earnest. Brad Johnson collected a quickly-fisted mark and his low shot deflected into the back of the net off the unfortunate Cormac McAnallen to reduce the deficit to just two points ? 38-40.

    Hall produced the mark of the match and predictably shot an over to put the home side in front by one. Soon after Murphy had little choice but to mow down Chris Johnson as he ran goalwards. And Ireland were punished for their haphazad defending as Johnson hit the back of the net with the resulting penalty from his hands. Coulter salvaged another behind but Ireland trailed 47-41 at the end of what had been a disastrous quarter for Ireland.

    Ireland began the final quarter positively with behinds from Tom Kelly and Coulter, but it looked unlikely that the Australia would relinquish the lead against their tired-looking opponents. Ireland were again exposed when slack marking allowed Shane Crawford to complete the Aussies' hat-trick of goals from close range. There was no way back for Ireland now but a behind from McDonald, who acquitted himself well throughout, and a brilliant McDonnell over (his 16th point in total) from play reduced the arrears to ten points (56-46).

    More crucially for Ireland though was Murphy's stop from a close range Brent Harvey effort to keep Ireland's hopes of a series-clinching victory alive.

    Filed by James Boylan
  • Dpw
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 829

    #2
    Re: Ireland discover BBB

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Go Swannies
    [B]Sorry,


    I've been a bit surprised by the lack of interest to the IR game on RWO considering BBB, the Captain, Leaping and Jared featured so prominantly.


    Not really its good to see the swans players running around but all I cared about was making sure they weren't injured. I mean can anyone really take this game to seriously a bunch of full time footy players beating up some part-time Irishman, I think I will watch the World cup and the cricket.

    anyone know how long before the next swans game Iam already suffering withdrawls.

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    • Go Swannies
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #3
      I only watched the game at midnight because I had consumed too much coffee while out for dinner. I was surprised by how exciting the game was - kinda like watching the Swans play rugby. It was amazing to see how much faster than any AFL player the Irish are.

      The world cup?? I've really tried (and I went to Sydney school where rugby was compuslory) but, except for cheering on losing minor teams that are really trying, it has been boooring. Any tipper not running at 100% must be embarassed.

      Injury seemed a distinct likelihood for Leaping - he took a dive towards the ball as if this was the Grand Final.

      The win in Perth seemed to mean a lot to those representing Australia. Even BBB said afterwards that it could only be compared to playing in a GF! Meanwhile the rest of the Oz players were acting as if they agreed - and it looked like as if not a single spectator left straight after the game. either.

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      • EMJ
        Go Swans Always
        • Jan 2003
        • 1076

        #4
        The swans players did us proud. I couldn't wait to watch it just to see the Swans players run and play so well. Much better than when we have had one player in it. Wish they would stop - Eddie M would stop - calling Barry - Big Bad Barry. Surely he has shown them enough by now - he not Bad - how good a player he is for us and control has come into his game.
        Go well Swans players next week - but as you all say watch the injuries - please we need you.
        Love those Swans

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        • dimelb
          pr. dim-melb; m not f
          • Jun 2003
          • 6889

          #5
          Hey, it's a good game to watch! Not quite the same as being in the season, but better than the farcical world cup (nearly as bad as a couple of US "world series"), and as for soccer, I'd rather watch grass grow ("a thrilling nil-all draw"). And the guys are taking it seriously. And has Gary Lyon got a future as a coach?
          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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          • penga
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 2601

            #6
            i loved watching the game as well


            FWIW, one of the early finals series in baseball was sponsored by a newspaper called "World", therefore making it the "World Series", it has stuck...
            C'mon Chels!

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            • Diego
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Jan 2003
              • 946

              #7
              I watched it as I do every year. I love this game. I get to watch a bit of everything mixed up and get to celebrate a goal like I do when they score a goal in soccer.

              I thought Barry played superb. He played the same as he had been playing all throughout season 2003. His marking was brilliant and his attempted back hell, which lead to a goal, was very funny.

              In fact for a minute it was like watching the swans play with Barry switching play over and kirk running and handballing from the back. Imagine if Leo had taken that screamer! Leo control yourself son...we need you next year! :P

              I thought the Irish were shell-shocked and didn?t recover when Scarlett felled one of the Irish playmakers.

              Would have been interesting in Tadhg had played.

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              • BAM_BAM
                Support Staff
                • Jun 2003
                • 1820

                #8
                I had a giggle when Baz first attempted to mark, only to give away a free. He then stood with that I don't believe it look on his face. Things don't change much regardless of the code.
                Here's my heart and you can break it
                I need some release, release, release
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                Love and peace

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                • snajik
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1115

                  #9
                  Re: Re: Ireland discover BBB

                  [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dpw
                  [B]
                  Originally posted by Go Swannies
                  Sorry,

                  Not really its good to see the swans players running around but all I cared about was making sure they weren't injured. I mean can anyone really take this game to seriously a bunch of full time footy players beating up some part-time Irishman, I think I will watch the World cup and the cricket.

                  Couldn't agree less. This was the first time I'd been able to catch a game, and I thought it was fantastic. The crowd was amazing, and the athleticism of both sides was outstanding. Sure the Australians are professionals, but there are equitable advantages for the Irish as well, such as the shape of the ball and the field. The game was played at a breakneck pace, and was a fierce contest.

                  As for that mind-numbingly tedious corporate crap known as the World Cup, you must be joshing. A scoreline of 142-0 and you are questioning the competitiveness of International Rules? As for the rivetting play for 5 days without any guarantee of a result concept of cricket, surely there's a higher level of action at the local laundromat?

                  As for me, I await Friday night's rematch bristling with anticipation.
                  Last edited by snajik; 27 October 2003, 02:05 PM.
                  It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
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                  • lescygnes
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 256

                    #10
                    now now, bit early to judge the RWC, and after yesterdays fantastic games, some people here need a rethink. (well done to Samoa for nearly providing the upset of a century).

                    as for the IR series, well the game in perth was a cracker. very much enjoyed it, but you could tell that we had them in the end, our players have the longevity to play the whole game.

                    as for nil all draws in soccer, well beauty lies within the eye of the beholder. ive seen some thrilling 0-0 draws in my day.

                    each game has its finer points, some appreciated by all, some not. afterall, ive seen some bloody miserable aussie rules games in my time too.

                    just like my nanna advised me, if we all liked the same thing, there wouldnt be enough to go around.

                    cheers
                    John

                    ps-off to gosford tonight for the Japan vs USA game in RWC. should be a cracker.
                    Cygnes de Sydney et Melbourne Du sud, champions d'australiens 2005 de ligue du football

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                    • Dave
                      Let those truckers roll
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1557

                      #11
                      Rugby... YAWN!



                      But I suppose there has to be some code that even fat b**stards can play.
                      "My theory is that the universe is made out of stupidity because it's more plentiful than hydrogen" - Frank Zappa

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                      • Go Swannies
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 5697

                        #12
                        Hey Snajik - that was DPW that was putting down the Perth game, not me. I was misquoted. Rather, Friday was the first time I'd seen an international rules game and I loved it. Even watched it again last night.

                        And the RUGBY - how brilliant was it yesterday when two teams who weren't meant to win actually stayed in the match until the second half! Can't get much better than that. Yawn. Maybe there will be a good game in the World Cup before the end but IR reminded me what we're missing. I'd settle for a Saints vs Dees exhibition match right now.

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                        • SWANSBEST
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 868

                          #13
                          I think the task of containing Barry is too big for the Irish.


                          Irish plot to stop Hall
                          By Rebecca Williams
                          October 28, 2003

                          HE's BIG and he's bad, his name is Barry Hall, and the Irish have him in their sights.

                          Irish coach John O'Keeffe yesterday identified Hall as the player who must be stopped if the tourists are to atone for last Friday's 10-point international rules series loss in Perth.

                          O'Keeffe admitted the Irish struggled to deal with Hall's size and strength and need to devise a strategy to counter his influence in the second Test at the MCG on Friday.

                          "He's the main threat," O'Keeffe said as the Irish team arrived in Melbourne yesterday.

                          "We'll have to get our heads around how to counteract that. It's going to be a big ask because he's so mobile and so strong.

                          "We really don't have anyone in our squad with that kind of physique and strength and that is a concern for us.

                          "He's the man we have to curtail in some way, so we have to devise some tactics."

                          O'Keeffe would not expand on how the Irish planned to beat the 194cm and 99kg Hall, but quipped: "We won't take him on in boxing, anyway, because I hear he's quite good at that."

                          While the Australians continued their preparations in camp at Rye on the Mornington Peninsula, the home side's aggression in the first Test at Subiaco remained under scrutiny.

                          Retired Crow Mark Bickley will tomorrow face a charge of striking Ireland's Tom Kelly, while AFL investigations officer Rick Lewis is expected to conclude his probe into an off-the-ball incident between Geelong's Matthew Scarlett and Ireland's Des Dolan today.

                          O'Keeffe said the incident was outside the spirit of the game.

                          "I wasn't pleased with the way a player was stopped going on to the field. That was one incident I thought was outside the spirit of the game," O'Keeffe said.

                          "I feel it's proper order to be honest, that when you have a player trying to get on the field and he's obstructed like that, I feel it needs to be looked at.

                          "It didn't help Dessy Dolan's performance . . . I think he was badly shaken after that incident."

                          But O'Keeffe defended Australia's physical play, saying the international rules concept would suffer without it.

                          "I don't have a problem with it (the physical play)," he said.

                          "They're playing what's instinctive to them, it's indigenous to their game, this tackling.

                          "There's no way the series could survive if you didn't have the Australian tackle.

                          "Generally our guys are well able to stand up for themselves and they're very brave the way they challenge their very often stronger opponents. There's nobody pulling out of a tackle anywhere.

                          "I'm very confident in our ability to stand up to the physicality of the Australian game.

                          "I thought there was give-and-take on both sides. We're not totally innocent either."

                          O'Keeffe said the best way for the Irish to handle the Australian's physical play was "to avoid it as much as we can".

                          But he conceded his men would have to step up their own tackling rate on Friday.

                          "We do realise that we do have to release the ball a little bit quicker and not get tangled up in these tackles, that's No. 1," O'Keeffe said.

                          "We also realise that we have to put in more tackles.

                          "What we're looking for more than ever is our scores. We're not concerned really with the physical side of it. We just want to put the ball over the bar and under the bar."



                          WMP

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                          • Bunyip
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                            • Sep 2003
                            • 84

                            #14
                            No Tadhg?

                            i enjoyed it too...there was a lot to like about the game if you ask me. even watching the different styles of the umpires was entertaining. the Irish ump didn't seem to mind getting in and mixing it up physically with the players, almost getting one of aussies in a head lock at one stage!

                            Crawford's attempted belly-slide to celebrate scoring a goal was very amusing

                            does anyone know why Tadgh wasn't playing for Ireland?
                            "History is what it is. I mean, you only look back on it. If you don't create it, well what's the point of looking back on it?"

                            (Justin Leppitsch "thinking" about a "historic hat-trick" during Grand Final week 2003)

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                            • lizz
                              Veteran
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 16744

                              #15
                              Re: No Tadhg?

                              Originally posted by Bunyip

                              does anyone know why Tadgh wasn't playing for Ireland?
                              He had an operation - hernia I think - a few weeks ago.

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