Draft of 1999

[The Whale]

Here is an article from AFL.Com that I played with to get the draft choices in order, the games played and whether they are still in the system.

It is the year that we gave away our first and second Round Draft Picks 11 and 29??? to WCE for Jason Ball.

We received a Second round Draft Pick for Trot Cook (21)

We chose Scott Stevens with pick 21
Simon Doyle with FS pick 26
Ryan O'Keefe with pick 56
Brett Allison with pick 70


Looking at how severl of the other teams fared, it was a bad draft and we only really got burnt with Brett Allison and Depending on how the new Kid we pick with Scott Stevens 3RDP, I will reserve my judgement as to whether we have totally wasted pick 21.



1 ? Josh Fraser: Games 88.
2 ? Paul Hasleby: Games 86. FREE
3 ? Aaron Fiora: Games: 61.RICH
4 ? Matthew Pavlich: 84. FREE
5 ? Leigh Brown: 42. FREE/ KAN
6 ? Damian Cupido: Games 13. BRI /ESS
7 ? Danny Roach: 1. COLL DEL
8 ? Joel Corey: Games 61. GEEL
9 ? Caydn Beetham: Games: 29. STK DEL
10 ?Luke McPharlin ? Games: 12. HAW/FRE
11 ? Darren Glass: Games: 53. WCE
12 ? Paul Koulouriotis: Games: 3.PT A DEL
13: Robert Murphy: Games: 60. WB
14 ? Travis Gaspar: 21. WCE
15 ? David Spriggs: 59. GEEL
16 ? David Haynes: 46. WCE / GEE
17 ? Ezra Bray: 0. GEEL DEL
18 ? Rhyce Shaw: 21.COLL
19 ? Brad Green: 83 games. MELB
20 ? Paul Wheatley: 51. MELB
21 ? Scott Stevens: Games: 25. Syd / ADEL
22 ? Ezra Poyas: 6. RICH DEL
23 ? Daniel Foster: 17. GEEL
24 ? Jason Blake: 40.STK
25 ? Brett Johnson: 38.HAW /CAR
26 ? Stephen Doyle: 19. Syd
27- Cain Ackland: 12.PT A
28 ? Brent Guerra: 65.PT A /STK
29 ? Adam Hunter: 47. WCE
30 ? Jonathan Brown: 74.BRI
31 ? Paul Chapman: 51. GEEL
32 ? Daniel Giansiracusa: 55. WB
33 ? Tim Clarke: 32.HAW
34 ? Leon Davis: 67.COLL
35 ? Patrick Wiggins: 12. WB
36 - Rhett Biglands: Games: 75. ADEL
37 ? Mitchell Hahn: 50. WB
38 ? Cameron Ling: 65. GEEL
39 ? Scott Homewood: 0. RICH DEL
40 ? David Hille: Games 49. ESS
41 ? Kane Munro: 18. WCE
42 ? Michael Clark: 1. MELB DEL
43 ? Lindsay Gilbee: 39. WB
44 ? Shane Morrison: 5.BRI DEL
45 ? Marcus Pickett: 0. ESS DEL
46 ? Adam Butler: 0. FREE DEL
47 ? Corey Enright: 55.GEEL
48 ? Chance Bateman: 29.HAW
49 ? Ben Cunningham: 27.FREE
50 ? Matthew Whelan: 68. MELB
51 ? Ricky O?Loughlin: 9. ADEL DEL
52 ? Andrew Mills: 14. RICH DEL
53 ? Clayton Lasscock: Games: 0.DEL
54 ? Murray Pitts: 0. STK DEL
55 ? Tim Hazell: 5.HAW DEL
56 ? Ryan O?Keefe: 42. Syd
57 ? Steven Brosnan: 0. PT A DEL
58 ? Patrick Bowden: 23. WB
59 ? John Barnes: 46. ESS DEL
61 ? Mark Ainley: 0. KAN DEL
62 ? Ben Johnson: 76.COLL
63 ? Shannon O?Brien: 0. MELB DEL
64 ? Cameron Bruce: 85.MELB
65 ? Justin Cicolella: 5. ADEL DEL
66 ? Richard Kelly: 0 games. CARL DEL
67 ? Robert Shirley: 36. ADEL
68 ? Tony Delaney: 33.STK DEL
69 ? Bill Nicholls: 6.HAW DEL

70 ? Brett Allison: 9.Syd DEL
72 ? Rob Forster-Knight: 31.ESS DEL
73 ? Ryan Houlihan: 76. CARL
74 ? Matthew Burton: 77.KAN DEL
75 ? Dale Baynes: 1. COLL DEL
76 ? Ryan Hargrave: 38. WB
77 ? Lindsay Smith: 1. KAN DEL
78 ? Ty Zantuck: 54. RICH
79 ? Balraj Singh: 0.ADEL DEL

80 ? Jeremy Dukes: 0. CARL DEL
81 ? Troy Makepeace: 84.KAN
82 ? Nick Stone: 0. COLL DEL
86 ? Trent Hotton: 48. CARL DEL
87 ? Christian Woodley: 0. KAN DEL
88 ? Michael Clark: 0. COLL DEL
90 ? Andrew Merrington: 18. CARL DEL
92 ? Adam Mathews: 0. CARL DEL
93 ? Joe Allan: 0.CARL DEL

[Charlie]

Average draft, but I still wouldn't say we did particularly well out of it. O'Keefe was a bargain, Doyle has been hampered by injuries... Stevens was a bit of a waste, and Allison merely filled space. Could've got Guerra or Giansiracusa ahead of Stevens, but I suppose at the time we were looking for replacement forwards after the retirement of Lockett.

All in all, I'd give us a 5/10.

[Ajn]

with time O'Keefe and Doyle will give this draft a look of greater success. Both are still raw talents, with a likely move to midfield for O'Keefe giving him the opportunity to impress. Doyle just needs to be taped up like a mummy!

[ugg]

Re: Draft of 1999

Originally posted by The Whale

1 ? Josh Fraser: Games 88.
2 ? Paul Hasleby: Games 86. FREE
3 ? Aaron Fiora: Games: 61.RICH
4 ? Matthew Pavlich: 84. FREE

Spot the odd one out!

[chammond]

All in all, I'd give us a 5/10.

A bit unfair I think.

From memory, we effectively took Scott Stevens in exchange for Stefan Carey, and Jason Ball for round 1 and 3 picks (11 and 41). Carey only played a handful of games for the Lions, and picks 11 and 41 gave WCE Glass and Munro . . . hardly worldbeaters.

We took Doyle as a father/son pick, but missed Ty Zantuck who was also a father/son option. And O'Keefe was a very good option for a fourth round pick.

The AFL article only tells half the story, because it doesn't analyse how smart the clubs were who traded picks for players before the draft.

The Swans didn't miss any obvious chances at a good player, and picked up Ball, Schauble, Stevens, Doyle and O'Keefe.

Must be worth at least a 9/10 overall.

[caj23]

aside from bulldogs, geelong and melbourne, the draft was a complete bust for most clubs (not including brissy picking j brown as a f/s pick up)

in hindsight the j ball trade wasn't quite as one sided as it initially looked (i've been a critic of it previously)

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
The Swans didn't miss any obvious chances at a good player,

That's the thing isn't it - looking through the list without the benefit of hindsight, it's hard to see where the Swans made any major errors in who they picked.

[robbieando]

I have always thought we drafted very well in 1999 considering we gave up a 1st and a 3rd Draft Pick (admittingly to get Jason Ball, who when fit have been a stand out player)

O'Keefe will only get better from here on in and with his life somewhat on track after the issues of the last few years, added gametime will only see better things out of O'Keefe

Doyle was at the time seen as a 1st Round Pick so we got him cheaply, sadly we haven't yet seen him at his best because of injuries. But hopefully 2004 is the start on something big from him, considering ruckman tend to come on later than other players, so maybe the injuries have come at the right time.

Stevens was a solid pick up, but was unlucky that he got little game time and when he did, he failed to live up to expectations.

Allson well that was a mistake, but for what we gave up for him I doubt it would of cost us a superstar and he did give us good service off the field in the following years.

Plus getting Ball and Schauble was good trading and are both mainstays.

7/10 for the trading
8/10 for the drafting

[Bleed Red Blood]

Originally posted by Will Sangster
aside from bulldogs, geelong and melbourne, the draft was a complete bust for most clubs (not including brissy picking j brown as a f/s pick up)

Hmm Freo didnt do well getting Pavlich and Haselby?

[caj23]

yes thank you brb for pointing that out, i should hope it was a good one for them given they had selections 2, 4 & 5 in the draft.

with the draft these days any recruiting manager who doesn't get at least 1 (possibly 2) quality players with those selections should be sacked

[chammond]

Allson well that was a mistake, but for what we gave up for him I doubt it would of cost us a superstar and he did give us good service off the field in the following years.

I know we like to ridicule the Allison selection, but in fact the Swans said at the time that if they hadn't taken Allison they would have passed on that pick . . . . and they still kept one spot back to take Fixter in the PSD.

Even though Allison just played 9 games in 2000 (and he was only picked up to fill a gap for one season), he still did much better than other late draft picks like Daniel Hunt, Dwayne Simpson, or Brett Rose.

[BAM_BAM]

Allison also did a lot of work off the ball that stats don't show. And as a result of him coming here, he's stayed and is helping bring our young guys to the level where they can play good senior level footy.