Club song

[Ryan Bomford]

Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by jimmytootle

What we need are more songs. They must be Australian, inspirational and known to all.

Now ... others??

Jimmy,

You're on to something here. I've always thought that a club song based on the Chisel's anthem "Cheap Wine" would get the crowd rocking. I could never pen the appropriate words however ...

[snajik]

Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by jimmytootle
There is nothing wrong with our current song but I agree with those who cringe at the thought that most of the AFL club songs have their derivation in US college marching songs or even worse, somebody else's national anthem.

What we need are more songs. They must be Australian, inspirational and known to all.

I submit a humble example of such a song for your critical appraisal, but I'm sure there are many better examples around!!

We're the Swans (Sung to the tune of John Farnham's You're the Voice)

[Instructions: Adopt J Farnham high itched squeeky voice]

Ahem -

We have the chance to make the grand final
We can win what we gotta win
We gotta raise that flag before we get much older er er er er er
We?re not wooden spooners
We?re not someone?s ?fun?
How long can we play together?
Before the flag is won

Chorus:

We?re the Swans, try and understand it
Kick a goal and call ?All Clear? - whoa oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa
We?re not gonna lose in silence
We?re gonna win and cheer - oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa oh whoa
This time, you know that we can all run together
With the power to be mark powerfully,
Believing, we can win together
We?re not wooden spooners
We?re not someone?s ?fun?
How long can we play together?
Before the flag is won
Chorus
Repeat
Believing, we can win together
We?re not wooden spooners
We?re not someone?s ?fun?
How long can we play together?
Before the flag is won

Breakdown [Imagine, if you will, the sound of 1000 bagpipes emanating from the O?Reilly stand]

Chorus
Repeat

Now ... others??

Does anyone have a trowel? I just vomited in my lap.

The thought of John Farnham 'inspiration' tainting a victory would see me out the door halfway through the last quarter. That would be even more sphincter scrunching than Glenn Shorrock's nauseating 'Kick on, kick on, you Sydney Swans' drivel that used to be played after every goal in the late 80s - early 90s (?). Fortunately we didn't kick too many back then.

Why tamper with our song? It's just fine. Some traditions work. I do have a problem with the 'While her loyal sons are marching...' line however. It's obviously a reference to military battle (WWI or WWII). Anyone know the history? ie, when it was written.

It certainly pisses over those contemporary club sons, WCE's, Port's, Freo's et al.

It doesn't necessarily follow that just because we live in Australia we must idolise Farnsy, Barnesy, Molly or the braindead crocodile hunter.

[robbieando]

Re: Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by snajik
Why tamper with our song? It's just fine. Some traditions work. I do have a problem with the 'While her loyal sons are marching...' line however. It's obviously a reference to military battle (WWI or WWII). Anyone know the history? ie, when it was written.

I'm pretty sure that the "while her loyal sons are marching" line was part of the original Notre Dame song. As to its meaning and when the song was written I haven't got a clue.

On this whole thread, we don't need another song and we don't need a song to be played after we kick a goal.

[Ryan Bomford]

Re: Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by snajik
It doesn't necessarily follow that just because we live in Australia we must idolise Farnsy, Barnesy, Molly or the braindead crocodile hunter.

You're right snaj, maybe contemporary 'stars' don't meet the tradition criteria: How 'bout "Once a jolly ruckman camped in the SCG" etc as a substitute?

[BAM_BAM]

Re: Re: Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by robbieando

On this whole thread, we don't need another song and we don't need a song to be played after we kick a goal.

Robbie,

maybe we can start up a song "We don't need another club song" sung to the tune of Tina Turner's We don't need another hero.

sorry guys, I've got to agree with JF and Robbie on this one. Our song is a proud part of The Club's heritage. I have great pride belting out the words and will often walk around on the weekends during the footy season singing it to myself.

[Ryan Bomford]

A little history on the mighty club theme song.

Notre Dame Victory March
Without a doubt the most recognizable collegiate fight song in the nation, the "Notre Dame Victory March" was written just past the turn of the century by two brothers who were University of Notre Dame graduates.

Michael J. Shea, a 1905 graduate, wrote the music and his brother, John F. Shea, who earned degrees in 1906 and 1908, wrote the words. The song was copyrighted in 1908 and a piano verson, complete with lyrics, was published that year.

Michael, who became a priest in Ossining, N.Y., collaborated on the project with John, who lived in Holyoke, Mass. The song's public debut came in the winter of 1908 when Michael played it on the organ of the Second Congregational Church in Holyoke.

The "Notre Dame Victory March" later was presented by the Shea brothers to the University and it first appeared under the copyright of the University of Notre dame in 1928. The copyright was assigned to the publishing company of Edwin H. Morris and the copyright for the beginning of the song is still in effect.

The words and music which begin with the words "Cheer, cheer for Old Notre Dame" are in the public domain in the United States, but are protected in all territories outside of the country.

Notre Dame's fight song was first performed at Notre Dame on Easter Sunday, 1909, in the rotunda of the Administration Building. The University of Notre Dame band, under the direction of Prof. Clarence Peterson, played it as part of its athletic event 10 years later. In 1969, as college football celebrated its centennial, the "Notre Dame Victory March" was honored as the "greatest of all fight songs."

Michael Shea was the pastor of St. Augustine's Church in Ossining until his death in 1938. John Shea, a baseball monogram winner at Notre Dame, became a Massachusetts state senator and live in Holyoke until his death in 1965.

Lyrics:

Rally sons of Notre Dame:
Sing her glory and sound her fame,
Raise her Gold and Blue
And cheer with voices true:
Rah, rah, for Notre Dame
We will fight in ev-ry game,
Strong of heart and true to her name
We will ne'er forget her
And will cheer her ever
Loyal to Notre Dame

Cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame,
Wake up the echoes cheering her name,
Send a volley cheer on high,
Shake down the thunder from the sky.
What though the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all,
While her loyal sons are marching
Onward to victory.

Interesting to note two things:

1) We barely touched the lyrics.
2) It's not public domain outside the US. I wonder if I'll get busted next time I belt it out after the next Swans victory.

[snajik]

Re: Re: Re: New Swans Club Song

Originally posted by Ryan Bomford
You're right snaj, maybe contemporary 'stars' don't meet the tradition criteria: How 'bout "Once a jolly ruckman camped in the SCG" etc as a substitute?

No, that's not quite what I had in mind either. Perhaps I've been misinterpreted. Wouldn't be the first time.

PS I can assure you that I am not a traditionalist, just don't see a need for change in this instance.

[Bear]

Originally posted by Ryan Bomford
A little history on the mighty club theme song.

Notre Dame Victory March
Without a doubt the most recognizable collegiate fight song in the nation, the "Notre Dame Victory March" was written just past the turn of the century by two brothers who were University of Notre Dame graduates.

Michael J. Shea, a 1905 graduate, wrote the music and his brother, John F. Shea, who earned degrees in 1906 and 1908, wrote the words. The song was copyrighted in 1908 and a piano verson, complete with lyrics, was published that year.

Michael, who became a priest in Ossining, N.Y., collaborated on the project with John, who lived in Holyoke, Mass. The song's public debut came in the winter of 1908 when Michael played it on the organ of the Second Congregational Church in Holyoke.

The "Notre Dame Victory March" later was presented by the Shea brothers to the University and it first appeared under the copyright of the University of Notre dame in 1928. The copyright was assigned to the publishing company of Edwin H. Morris and the copyright for the beginning of the song is still in effect.

The words and music which begin with the words "Cheer, cheer for Old Notre Dame" are in the public domain in the United States, but are protected in all territories outside of the country.

Notre Dame's fight song was first performed at Notre Dame on Easter Sunday, 1909, in the rotunda of the Administration Building. The University of Notre Dame band, under the direction of Prof. Clarence Peterson, played it as part of its athletic event 10 years later. In 1969, as college football celebrated its centennial, the "Notre Dame Victory March" was honored as the "greatest of all fight songs."

Michael Shea was the pastor of St. Augustine's Church in Ossining until his death in 1938. John Shea, a baseball monogram winner at Notre Dame, became a Massachusetts state senator and live in Holyoke until his death in 1965.

Lyrics:

Rally sons of Notre Dame:
Sing her glory and sound her fame,
Raise her Gold and Blue
And cheer with voices true:
Rah, rah, for Notre Dame
We will fight in ev-ry game,
Strong of heart and true to her name
We will ne'er forget her
And will cheer her ever
Loyal to Notre Dame

Cheer, cheer for old Notre Dame,
Wake up the echoes cheering her name,
Send a volley cheer on high,
Shake down the thunder from the sky.
What though the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all,
While her loyal sons are marching
Onward to victory.

Interesting to note two things:

1) We barely touched the lyrics.
2) It's not public domain outside the US. I wonder if I'll get busted next time I belt it out after the next Swans victory.

Yes, a South Melbourne official wrote to ND and received official approval in writing. This letter of approval was given to one Richard Colless a number of years ago.

[snajik]

Thanks for the history RB. So it would then seem that the line "While her loyal sons ......etc." is referring to the university with the 'she' be an inanimate educational institution and not a monarch as I had first surmised. Perhaps the use of the word 'sons' might also suggest that it was a male only university back in 1908?

[Bear]

Originally posted by Hinesy
Well this is the first time I've posted on this board, thanks for making me feel so welcome. I'm outta here.

If you're THAT easily offended then you'd better not visit again 'cos it gets worse... so put away the razor blades.

[Ryan Bomford]

As an interesting side note, the Notre Dame 'fight song' frequently gets voted as the number one college fight song, even ranking above other 'classics' like "Anchors aweigh". So it's obviously recognised as a catchy tune in many sporting circles.

[swansrock4eva]

I would NEVER change the club song - that's what I learnt as a 10y.o at my first games, it's what I will sing as a 20y.o next year. It's what I want to be singing when I'm 90 dammit! Sure, have some novelty songs occasionally (having the whole O'Reilly stand and concourse belting out "One Tony Lockett" with the raised arm was actually pretty cool), but never ever change the club song!

And I must agree, when the Tiges' fans get into it, it is pretty awesome to hear them belting out their song

[Ryan Bomford]

Originally posted by snajik
Thanks for the history RB. So it would then seem that the line "While her loyal sons ......etc." is referring to the university with the 'she' be an inanimate educational institution and not a monarch as I had first surmised. Perhaps the use of the word 'sons' might also suggest that it was a male only university back in 1908?

Well spotted snaj. I don't believe women were allowed to enrol at NDU until 1972.

Maybe 'Bear' can expand on how the South Melbourne Swans 'applied' for rights to use the song.

[snajik]

Originally posted by swansrock4eva

And I must agree, when the Tiges' fans get into it, it is pretty awesome to hear them belting out their song

And the reason why they 'belt' out their song is because they never know when their next opportunity to sing it again will be.

As for NDU......1972? How progressive.

[robbieando]

Originally posted by snajik
As for NDU......1972? How progressive.

Well thats Irish Catholic's for you