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  • SWANSBEST
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    • Jan 2003
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    Swans allocation of guernsey numbers

    Swans yet to earn lower numbers

    February 05, 2004
    SYDNEY's No.8 guernsey, worn with distinction by Team of the Century member Daryn Cresswell, will not be sighted on AFL grounds this year with club officials deciding no player has yet earned the right.


    Midfielder Cresswell finished fifth on Sydney's all-time appearance list after logging 244 games in 12 seasons before retiring at the end of last year.

    Cresswell, who made the interchange list on the Swans' team of the century, was subsequently appointed an assistant coach at AFL rival Geelong.

    Sydney coach Paul Roos said a couple of players had put in for Cresswell's number.

    However, No.8, and the No.16 guernsey formerly worn by Scott Stevens, were not granted to players who applied.

    Roos and the match committee did, however, allow top draft pick Josh Willoughby to wear No.7 formerly worn by 1996 grand final player Brad Seymour, who left the club at the end of last season.

    The only significant number change among the Swans was Adam Schneider, who was granted his wish to wear the No.13 shirt formerly occupied by Daniel McPherson who was delisted at the end of last season.

    "Some of the young blokes put in for a few different numbers and we probably didn't feel at this stage they earned the right to change their number and go down to a lower number," Roos said.

    "The reason Josh Willoughby got seven (was) last year we gave Jarrad McVeigh, who was our first (draft) pick, a choice, this year we gave Josh a lower number.

    "But generally speaking it's about trying to earn the jumper. Schneider (who used to wear 36) wanted 13 and we felt he earned it."

    The most revered Sydney guernsey, the No.14 worn by club champions Bob Skilton and Paul Kelly, remained unused for a second season following the retirement of the latter.

    "No one even put in for it to be honest," Roos said.

    "There's never any thoughts from our point of view of giving it away."

    Meanwhile, the players relished the opportunity to have a hit out on a full sized field during this week's Community Camp in Newcastle after problems with their main training ground in Sydney.

    "It was the best session they've had since we started, that's an indication of how important it was, the guys are jumping out of their skin and trained outstandingly well," Roos said.

    Sydney trained at the Newcastle No.1 Sports Ground earlier this week and hoped to have their own ground fit for use next Monday.


    WMP
  • CureTheSane
    Carpe Noctem
    • Jan 2003
    • 5032

    #2
    Does it sound strange to anyone else that players 'apply' for numbers.

    I mean, they are numbers.

    Anyway, Goodsey should have put in for 14.
    Sounds like he's the only one who they might ley have it....
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    • snajik
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      • Jan 2003
      • 1115

      #3
      McPherson delisted? 99% sure that he retired. Frosty 13, like to help me out here?

      CTS, I for one find it odd. Also the perception that better players would want / should get lower numbers. Many higher numbers have been worn with distinction. One would surmise that Goodesy for example is pretty happy with wearing 37, in fact he'd look kinda weird wearing any other.

      Trivia question - what number did Cressa wear prior to #8?
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      • Ert
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        • Jan 2003
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        #4
        Cressa won his 1994 B&F in #28
        He switched to #8 the following year following the trade of Simon Minton-Connell

        So the list is as follows

        1. Barry Hall
        2. Nick Davis
        3. Jarrad McVeigh
        4. Ben Mathews
        5. Ryan O'Keefe
        6. Craig Bolton
        7. Josh Willoughby
        8. Vacant
        9. Ben Fixter
        10. Paul Williams
        11. Stuart Maxfield
        12. Nic Fosdike
        13. Adam Schneider
        14. Vacant
        15. Stephen Doyle
        16. Vacant
        17. Tadgh Kennelly
        18. Heath James
        19. Michael O'Loughlin
        20. Luke Ablett
        21. Leo Barry
        22. Jason Saddington
        23. Matthew Nicks
        24. Jude Bolton
        25. Andrew Schauble
        26. Sean Dempster
        27. Jason Ball
        28. Jared Crouch
        29. Mark Powell
        30. Lewis Roberts-Thompson
        31. Brett Kirk
        32. Amon Buchanan
        33. Rowan Warfe
        34. Daniel Hunt*
        35. Jarrad Sundqvist
        36. Tim Schmidt
        37. Adam Goodes
        38. Josh Thewlis
        39. Scott McGlone*
        40. Nick Malceski
        41. Andrew Ericksen
        42. Paul Bevan*
        43. James Meiklejohn
        44. Matthew Davis
        45. Aaron Rogers*
        47. Nick Potter*

        Don't have number info on Luke Taylor - assume he is #46

        * denotes rookie list
        Last edited by Benevolent Ert; 6 February 2004, 07:21 PM.

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        • Ajn
          Draft Scout
          • Jan 2003
          • 711

          #5
          Frosty retired
          Understand the retirement of 14, but not 8. He was a great player for us, but a number retirement should be unique to pure champions of the game.
          Staying ahead of the game...

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          • motorace_182
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            • Jan 2003
            • 961

            #6
            Does it sound strange to anyone else that players 'apply' for numbers

            How else will they do it. If the take it then there will be players wearing numbers they dont deserve. Its about respect and earning it.
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            • Rizzo
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              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              Goodesy has already made 37 famous. Hang on to it and make it your own, champion!

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              • TheHood
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1938

                #8
                Ask any mathematician, numbers are special and it's a special thing about our game that I love.

                We don't do the name thing on the jumpers so numbers are more so important.

                If 4 was only given a year, then 8 should be given no more than a year.

                14 can be held back until firstly someone who gives their all consistently is ready to wear it. Not a one year wonder and not a one quarter a game player either.

                If Kirky wanted that jumper next year (after another corker this year), I would give it to him. He wears the Blood with pride. Same goes with Jude.
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                • SwansBloke
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 104

                  #9
                  I look forward to seeing Vacant step up this year...

                  I'm sorry, it sounded funny in my head. The first post of mine in ages was this... how shameful... sorry, can't follow the guys as closely in the offseason here in Perth, but I'm always reading this board!

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                  • jixygirl
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 432

                    #10
                    In Melbourne its almost as bad. All of the updates are on the Melbourne teams unless something really interesting happens. I also agree with TheHood that either Kirky or Jude could earn the no. 14 with another good season, if they wanted it.
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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      #11
                      My comment about Goodes was sarcastic.
                      Personally I couldn't care less about which number a player wears, but i do respect the tradition behind the numbers with past champoins etc.

                      Which is why I object to retiring numbers at all.

                      what makes the history special is that a player wore that number and was a great player.
                      That's all.

                      By 'selecting' players to play under a number, like 14, because they have that 'extra' potential, make it all a bit planned and contrived.

                      Wanna make number 63 THE number?
                      Simple, let Goodes wear it.
                      Then when he's gone, give it to Ablett, or Malceski, or Dempster, or whoever looks like becomminga star.

                      Rant over.
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                      • BAM_BAM
                        Support Staff
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 1820

                        #12
                        I tend to agree with you CTS. Why was it so special to start with? It wasn't, it's how those players played and what they achieved in it that makes it special.

                        I really think that by making it "THE" number to wear, the player who gets lumped with it then may be more concerned about not performing badly in the number than worrying about their natural game.

                        I guess you could then argue that the player chosen may not have been the correct one.

                        I don't mean to take anything away from those legends of our club. IMHO it would be an honour to wear the number. But with that honour comes a lot of pressure.
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                        • Doctor J.
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1310

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BAM_BAM
                          I tend to agree with you CTS.
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                          Someone actually agreeing with CTS

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                          • CureTheSane
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5032

                            #14
                            What a gay thing to say.



                            haha
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                            • TheHood
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1938

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CureTheSane
                              What a gay thing to say.



                              haha
                              Are you the same bloke that said that the Hooped Socks were "gay" as well?

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