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  • SWANSBEST
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 868

    Roos angry

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    AFL

    Angry Roos turns up heat on AFL

    By TIM MORRISSEY

    February 21, 2004

    PAUL Roos believes the Melbourne-centric AFL needs to brush up on its Sydney geography after the league left the Swans coach sweating on his request to add two players to his interchange bench for tomorrow's Wizard Cup game.


    With temperatures in western Sydney expected to reach an oppressive 37 degrees, Roos has repeatedly asked the AFL for permission to increase the Swans interchange from six to eight players for the Carlton game at Telstra Stadium.

    However, the league has so far denied his request on the basis, according to one AFL spokesperson, that tomorrow's predicted average temperature for Sydney is going to be 29 degrees.


    Roos believes the indecision by the league. and their lack of understanding when it comes to Sydney geography. is not only a farce but also places the players' health at risk.


    "The AFL is using the predicted temperature at Bondi on the beach on Sunday," said Roos. "So why don't we relocate the game and we can play beach volleyball instead.


    "The league should look at the temperatures out west. It's going to be somewhere between 33-37 degrees.


    "What does it matter to the AFL if both teams want eight players on the interchange?"


    The Swans had a taste of what tomorrow has install for them when they trained at Homebush in sweltering conditions, made worst by the fact that Telstra Stadium's unique design intensifies the heat by reducing air circulation.




    The AFL's stance, on top of their refusal to budge on trialing a new rule that limits runners to five messages a quarter, has incensed the Swans coach.


    Roos is one of many AFL coaches calling for the league to rethink the scheduling and rule changes pertaining to Wizard Cup.


    "You'd like to think that common sense prevails and you'd try and look after the players," said Roos.


    "For the players safety, you'd want to be able to get them on and off," he added.


    "But with only five messages you might be faced with a situation were the coach wants somebody off ? but the player hasn't looked over and seen his number and plays four or five minutes longer than he should have and does a hamstring.


    "But there's a couple of strange things going on at the moment which is a bit concerning for the coaches and clubs."


    Roos also took a back-handed swipe at the self interests of television scheduling and the impact it's had on Wizard Cup game times.


    "I have no idea why it wasn't a Saturday night game," said Roos.


    But the simple answer why the Swans are playing at 3.45pm tomorrow in the middle of the hottest month of the year is live television.


    It's why the Kangaroos face Melbourne from 1.10pm today in Canberra.


    WMP
  • Reggi
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 2718

    #2
    too right - one night I left the city and work (in Sydney) it was a pleasant 29 - at home out west down Campbelltown way it was 41 - blistering
    You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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    • CureTheSane
      Carpe Noctem
      • Jan 2003
      • 5032

      #3
      I hope Roos doesn't continue down this road of unfair criticism of the AFL.

      Using the words 'understand' and 'Sydney' together all the time will become meaningless if he does.

      Is he saying that the AFL don't understand about temperature?
      It has nothing to do with Sydney at all.

      The AFL will base their decision of the temperature.
      And if that is unfair, then so be it.
      Roos has repeatedly said that he cares not about the pre season comp, and if that is really true, he will increase his beach by 2 players by playing a 16 man field.
      And Pagan can do the same if they really mean what they say.
      ie: if the main reason for participating in the pre season comp is to give the players some game time without injury, and he doesn't care if we lose, the he can do that happily.

      You know, it would be better for the Swans and Carlton to play 16 men on the field and make the game almost 'farce' like to make the point to the AFL.
      Actions speak louder than words, especially when those words are sour grapes.
      Nobody like that....
      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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      • swansrock4eva
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        • Jan 2003
        • 1352

        #4
        But the problem is that the AFL is going by the coast's temperature, rather than the temp for 20+km inland where the game will be played. I was at uni yesterday where it was a charming 30degrees with a nice cooling breeze, 1km from the beach then I headed home about 30km inland to 40 degree temps, no breeze and very high humidity.

        The AFL's decision is ridiculous because they should know that playing a sport like ours in 30degrees or more is placing players at a much higher risk of injury and dehydration-related problems, which is why they have stipulated that premiership games in Brisbane have to be Saturday night ones until the cooler weather comes into effect (or so they said). So if they stipulate it for premiership season, why not for Wiz cup? They are demanding that all teams play, yet don't want to give them the right the ensure player welfare. Stupid.

        Regarding the 5 messages a quarter, why not ask the waterboys and girls to help out seeing as they aren't runners

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        • Charlie
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          • Jan 2003
          • 4101

          #5
          Originally posted by swansrock4eva


          Regarding the 5 messages a quarter, why not ask the waterboys and girls to help out seeing as they aren't runners
          I was at the Bulldogs/Tigers match last night, and this was happening all game. That rule has achieved a lot, hasn't it?
          We hate Anthony Rocca
          We hate Shannon Grant too
          We hate scumbag Gaspar
          But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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          • CureTheSane
            Carpe Noctem
            • Jan 2003
            • 5032

            #6
            But the problem is that the AFL is going by the coast's temperature, rather than the temp for 20+km inland where the game will be played.
            So you are saying that the AFL are ignorant idiots.

            Sorry, but I am not going to blindly cry 'persecuted' just because things didn't go Paul's way.

            I think the AFL as pretty fair as a general rule (look at the outcome of the salasy cap concessions this week).
            The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              Originally posted by CureTheSane
              So you are saying that the AFL are ignorant idiots.
              They are if they think mid to high 30s is a sensible temperature in which to play football and if they think that the coastal temperature in Sydney is the same as the temperature in the western suburbs.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • TheMase
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 1207

                #8
                Originally posted by swansrock4eva

                Regarding the 5 messages a quarter, why not ask the waterboys and girls to help out seeing as they aren't runners
                Because then they might aswell send the 5 runners out because the water carriers are already not allowed to pass messages onto the players ....

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                • j s
                  Think positive!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMase
                  Because then they might aswell send the 5 runners out because the water carriers are already not allowed to pass messages onto the players ....
                  But the water persons could say things like "Look at the interchange board - your number is up"

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                  • Tooth Fairy
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 724

                    #10
                    What both Carlton and sydney players should do is line up in their positions for the first bounce, and once the ball is bounced, turn to their respective interchange benches and wait for their numbers to be called.

                    FFS this is not a pissant sport like soccer. Runners and their messages are an integral part of football both at the grass roots and the elite level.
                    If u don't believe me, I will knock your bloody teeth out and not pay you a cent.

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                    • hardluck_harry
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 104

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CureTheSane
                      So you are saying that the AFL are ignorant idiots.

                      This is the same AFL that has been sued in the past for neglecting player welfare in pre-season games, at least in regards to playing on under prepared grounds.

                      The the AFL has always been reactive rather than proactive.

                      If the temperature is over 35, both the Swans and Carlton should play 2 extra interchange regardless of the AFL decision. Sheedy did that in an interstate game a few years ago so a precedent has been set.

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                      • Mike_B
                        Peyow Peyow
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 6267

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hardluck_harry
                        If the temperature is over 35, both the Swans and Carlton should play 2 extra interchange regardless of the AFL decision. Sheedy did that in an interstate game a few years ago so a precedent has been set.
                        Agree there....what's the worst the AFL will do? Fine the club? That's a much cheaper price to pay than having Goodes or someone like that out for 6 weeks because of a heat-related problem.

                        I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                        If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                        • CureTheSane
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5032

                          #13
                          Seriously, I get sick of the coaches and administrations being sooky sooky la la's about this and that and something else.

                          The AFL knows what the temperature will be out where the game is being played.

                          The clubs will have made sure of that.

                          And they have decided that no extra players are required on the bench.


                          Deal with it and move on, instead of crying.

                          Like I said, there are other legal ways around it, IF Carlton and Sydney are REALLY concerned.

                          Play 16 players only at once.

                          BANG! There's two extra on the bench.

                          The AFL gets the message loud and clear that perhaps the clubs REALLY thought it was too hot.
                          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                          • robbieando
                            The King
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2750

                            #14
                            Got to 45 in Western Sydney today
                            Once was, now elsewhere

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                            • swansrock4eva
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1352

                              #15
                              exactly! and in a stadium it's even worse because the airflow (if there's any in the first place) is reduced. It's not a case of being "sooky la la's," it's a case of being SENSIBLE. If it was Collingwood instead of Carlton, Eddie would have written about 20 articles on it now and made sure the issue was plastered everywhere to the point where the AFL would be embarrased to NOT deal with it. Instead, because it's Roos who speaks out about a very real and present concern, even our own supporters are saying we're sooking?! wtf?!

                              Why do you think a lot of local sports have been cancelled up here this weekend? Because they're worried the players will get bad tan lines from uniforms? NO! It's because it's simply too frigging hot to actually be able to perform for any length of time. Our boys may be professionals but the implcations of having to work too hard in this sort of humid heat are huge and very long reaching if they aren't allowed to be managed properly.

                              And if the AFL is so with things, why are they STILL stating it will only be 29 degrees in WESTERN Sydney tommorrow when it's been even hotter than predicted all over the region today?

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