Mike Sheahan predicts 6-8 finish

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  • Bear
    Best and Fairest
    • Feb 2003
    • 1022

    #16
    There will only be a few wins between 2nd and 10th IMO so 6-8 is about on the money.
    "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
    Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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    • Rizzo
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 655

      #17
      The team I really want to beat this year is Adelaide. They have been the bogy team for a while now and we got close last year. Beat them this year and (Carey's last?) and I reckon and our boys will be stronger for it.

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      • sharp9
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2508

        #18
        Originally posted by Rizzo
        The team I really want to beat this year is Adelaide. They have been the bogy team for a while now and we got close last year. Beat them this year and (Carey's last?) and I reckon and our boys will be stronger for it.
        Yep, nearly as bad as Hawthorn!
        "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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        • EMJ
          Go Swans Always
          • Jan 2003
          • 1076

          #19
          I agree with TheHood's comment - "I can't imagine Team Roos letting the Sydney Swans fall apart or go backwards"

          Hopefully wheels don't fall off and Sheehan again gets to eat his words - he is up himself anyway and only taking care of his Victorian counterparts.
          Love those Swans

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          • Reggi
            On the Rookie List
            • Jan 2003
            • 2718

            #20
            By normal expectations of player's careers Goodes, Bolton * 2, Kennelly, Schnieder, Davis, Fosdike, Saddington should all get better.

            That said we have one of the poorer midfields in the comp, and that will tell. Some like Fosdike and Ablett have not been impressive so far in the pre-season but time will tell.

            A good ruckman can improve a midfield a lot
            You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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            • robbieando
              The King
              • Jan 2003
              • 2750

              #21
              Originally posted by Reggi
              A good ruckman can improve a midfield a lot
              A Michael Voss like midfielder would improve our midfield more than a good ruckman. Thats what we are missing a midfielder who can take apart a game on his own.
              Once was, now elsewhere

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                #22
                Mike Sheahan has always gone with the so called strength of the comp. I doubt he has ever picked the improver of the season, and there is one of those every year.

                He is a conservative punter who is involved in a media pecking order and when you analyse last years predictions you could throw a blanket over the lot of their predictions, as they were so narrow in their prognostications.

                They have set ideas about clubs and players and rarely go outside those perameters.

                By the way, there is nothing wrong with our midfield. Their centre clearances improved dramatically last year which had a lot to do with our improvement.

                Also Cressa was certainly not our best at this, so we won't lose much in the dept by his departing.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Nico
                  Mike Sheahan has always gone with the so called strength of the comp. I doubt he has ever picked the improver of the season, and there is one of those every year.
                  He likes to protect his cushy job - not a bad gig for $250K pa.

                  By the way, there is nothing wrong with our midfield. Their centre clearances improved dramatically last year which had a lot to do with our improvement.
                  Our centre bounce clearances would be in the bottom few. We average about 11, against a league average of 13. That places about 14-16 I think.

                  A team like Brisbane is 4th best for centre clearances (ave 14). As an guide, their top 4 CB clearers are Black (49), Voss (40), Power (38), Lappin (36) and Charman (22).

                  Our top 5 are J Bolton (42), Kirk (32), Maxfield (23), Goodes (21) and Williams (21).

                  Our overall clearances are about 35, which is just above the leage average of 34, so we'd be in the top half there.
                  Also Cressa was certainly not our best at this, so we won't lose much in the dept by his departing.
                  He averaged 1 per game, which would actually place him 4th in our best CB clearers.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • Damien
                    Living in 2005
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 3713

                    #24
                    When does Robert Walls usually put out his tips for the year? he did well from memory last year, and was the only one who thought we would make the finals.

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                    • Reggi
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2718

                      #25
                      Originally posted by robbieando
                      A Michael Voss like midfielder would improve our midfield more than a good ruckman. Thats what we are missing a midfielder who can take apart a game on his own.
                      We got a ruckman - we ain't got a Michael Voss
                      You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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                      • Reggi
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2718

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        [B]He likes to protect his cushy job - not a bad gig for $250K pa.

                        [b]

                        Our centre bounce clearances would be in the bottom few. We average about 11, against a league average of 13. That places about 14-16 I think.

                        A team like Brisbane is 4th best for centre clearances (ave 14). As an guide, their top 4 CB clearers are Black (49), Voss (40), Power (38), Lappin (36) and Charman (22).

                        Our top 5 are J Bolton (42), Kirk (32), Maxfield (23), Goodes (21) and Williams (21).

                        Our overall clearances are about 35, which is just above the leage average of 34, so we'd be in the top half there.


                        Those stats are a bit deceptive to what you see on game day. Against Hawthorn and Carlton - to alesser extent Brisbane, we were clearly beaten for strength around the footy.

                        Even last weekend this was obvious - although that time C/wood had a lot of big fat bodies that could block the space around the ball but not use it well.

                        When Bolton and Williams were off in the 3rd qrtr C/wood kicked 3 quick goals.

                        Anyway it's a problem - probably excarebated by the fact that we have two defensive midfielders in Crouch and Kirk
                        He averaged 1 per game, which would actually place him 4th in our best CB clearers.
                        You don't ban those who supported your opponent, you make them wallow in their loserdom by covering your victory! You sit them in the front row. You give them a hat! Toby Ziegler

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