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If they got a payoff it was because he refused to play for us, would've sat out!!
Don't let the creep off........
Don't let the creep off........
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Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun
I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl Warren -
I don't think Hayes will leave the Saints, and I can't see any of the others coming to Sydney unless they really dislike footy-centric Melbourne. I'd love to have Dal Santo at the Swans though.Comment
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Now that's a real shame - Coughlan would have been brilliant for us.Originally posted by Reggi
Steve can confirm this I believe Sydney had set their targets on Coughlan, but were very surprised that Ablett had slipped through (thought he was top 12 or so), opted for him instead.
Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.
"[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."Comment
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All this talk about the above players is pointless. So what if we should of got them, what if we did and they turned out to be duds.Once was, now elsewhereComment
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OK Robbie, I'll bite, I haven't seen anyone else ask - the words above your avatar, Gaelic? And the translation?He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)Comment
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Its Finnish and translated it means "Our own forefather's earth", in fact its the last line of the first verse of the national anthem of Finland.Originally posted by dimelb
OK Robbie, I'll bite, I haven't seen anyone else ask - the words above your avatar, Gaelic? And the translation?Once was, now elsewhereComment
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I thought Hird went under the Father and Son rule to Essendon?Originally posted by Nico
Worst oversight! Try Wayne Carey and James Hird.
I am not positive about this - but he is like the 4th generation from his family to play there.Comment
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Wasn't eligible under father-son. His father only played a handful of games for the Bombers. It was his grandfather who was a highly successful player at that club.Originally posted by Damien
I thought Hird went under the Father and Son rule to Essendon?
I am not positive about this - but he is like the 4th generation from his family to play there.
No idea about his great grandfather though...Comment
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Interesting about Hayes as he was on 6pr being interviewed by Adrain Barich and Brad Hardie and they directly asked him about missing out on being selected by the swans and he said he was at the time a little dirty on the swans, he went on to say that he is know glad they had not selected him bla bla and so on, however later on in the interview said he still wouldn't mind playing for Sydney one day.
So here's hoping.!
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FWIW & IMO coughlan is quite overrated, sure he is good under the packs but he cant kick for ****... who else is there at richmond to rave about? granted that he has done a lot more than ablett to this stage... but, i could imagine the coughlan-bashing threads on RWO if he was on our list, stating that he cant kick for quids... i wonder if brown will be affected by the richmond mediocre spell??? i hope not, i like watching him...
this year roos has stated that it will be likely that he will trade away draft picks for some quality, at this stage KPP, as there is no point in adding more rookies to the list as we have a vast number... if this is the case, i couldnt see the swans trading away, hypothetically, their first two draft picks two years in a row under the roos regime... so, unless one or two of our rookie talls really steps up this year and we have no reason to draft a young KPP at the end of the season, i cant see us going for hayes at the end of next year... and if he were to come out of contract (im sure we couldnt come close to satisfying st kilda's wants trade wise for him - especially when we have the last pick in each round) he wouldnt slip to us in the preseason... therefore, charlie, im sorry to say, i cant see it happening...
one thing id like to know, for sheer eddie p1ss off points, is when is tarrant out of contract? maybe a 2nd rd draft pick might suffice...
C'mon Chels!Comment
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At the end of 2005 we could go after Playfair or Bradley.
We took Powell at 28 and Roberts-Thompson at 29 ahead of Playfair at 42 in the 91 draft (when we also took Hunt at 54, Schneider at 60 and Mott at 74).
Interesting to see that we took Barry Hall in exchange for 13, 17 and 45 which were used on Nick Dal Santo, James Kelly and Nathan Carroll.
I reckon that was a fair swap."I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005Comment
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taking eddie's gun pin-up forwards for 2nd round picks makes me happyOriginally posted by penga
one thing id like to know, for sheer eddie p1ss off points, is when is tarrant out of contract? maybe a 2nd rd draft pick might suffice...
I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his timeComment
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Lenny Hayes wasn't picked as the Swans thought he was too slow. We did have picks 3,4 and 8 but one way of judging how well we did is to remember that to get those picks we gave away Jason Mooney and Brett O'Farrell. At least Fosdike and Bolton are still playing. Fitzgerald was Number 1 on Sydney's
wish list. They would have done almost anything to get him.---------||--ANNE--||----------Comment
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Very very very well put.Originally posted by TheHood
Why do we have to keep sawing saw dust here?
There is little worse debate in footy than the draft picks that got away!
Sydney were very keen on Ablett but as Reggi said they expected him not to be around come our pick (24 from memory). So much so that Coughlan was told straight out that we'd take him.
In theory Ablett was a good pick at the time, which was Sydney's thinking - a fairly mature body which meant he could play straight away, but also had pace and was a good kick.
I think the issue with Ablett is confidence - he doesn't appear to believe that he belongs in the senior side. I don't know what the answer is - perhaps they should have played him in defence a la Bevan this PS.
But who is to say that had Ablett gone to a **** club like St Kilda or Richmond and walked into their senior sides straight away, that he wouldn't have established himself like a Hayes or Coughlan?
People quickly forget that we traded Mooney and O'Farrell for 2 top 8 draft picks - that's how highly other clubs rated the top end of the 1998 draft.Comment
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Well this does put it in perspective.... Bolton,Fitzgerald & FosdikeOriginally posted by Steve
People quickly forget that we traded Mooney and O'Farrell for 2 top 8 draft picks - that's how highly other clubs rated the top end of the 1998 draft.
1.For finishing low
2.For Mooney
3.For O'Farrell
That does put it in perspective, Fitzgerald didnt work out but if we'd stuck with O"Farrell and Mooney that would have been much worse... People are comparing Jude & Nic's high draft pick excpectancy to that of recent high draft picks... Judd etc.
If what Steve says is true about 98 being a weak draft we did well from it.Comment
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