Jeff Farmer goes mental at the SCG

[Adz]

What a great example Crouchy sets for the younger guys at the club. Good on him !

[sharpie]

Isn't JF trying to say something about how good it was that the crowd were able to in some small way contribute to putting Farmer off his game?

[Bart]

Jeez JF, you've got them going at bigfooty

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=106288&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

[pillowtalk]

We had a group behind us taunting Farmer as well about his wife. Sledging is part and parcel of the game but my question is how far into someone's personal life is too far ?. I was disgusted the other week about Brett Montgomery sledging Essendon's Adam Ramanouskas about his cancer and chemo treatment. Once he was outed in the media Montgomery offered Ramanouskas an apology but he shouldn't have stooped so low in the first place !

[Rizzo]

It was pretty quiet down the Noble end. Farmer tended to lead the forwards way up the park if the ball was in the Swans attacking 50. All hell did break loose when Farmer ran into Tadgh's shoulder, hit the ground like he was shot and got a free...

[Bart]

Originally posted by Bart
Jeez JF, you've got them going at bigfooty


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showth...5&pagenumber=1

Erm, it got so heated in there, the mods have deleted the thread

[robbieando]

Originally posted by pillowtalk
We had a group behind us taunting Farmer as well about his wife. Sledging is part and parcel of the game but my question is how far into someone's personal life is too far ?. I was disgusted the other week about Brett Montgomery sledging Essendon's Adam Ramanouskas about his cancer and chemo treatment. Once he was outed in the media Montgomery offered Ramanouskas an apology but he shouldn't have stooped so low in the first place !

Look this isn't the first time Farmer has reacted to abuse from the Swans CS, he did it a few year back when still at Melbourne during a game at the MCG. Anyway nothing wrong with both parties giving as good as they get. However this crap about not bringing up is personal life, to me is wrong. The man hit his partner, which in my books is the lowest thing a man can do. I have grown up seeing for myself the effects partner abuse can have on a family, not only at the time of the abuse but 30 years after it. Trust me I have no time for men who beat up women, and I have no problem bringing such events up.

[SETH]

I gotta say that Sunday's game was the most fun I've had at a Swans game for a while now. Seeing a star player like Farmer react the way he did was hysterical. I agree that those comments about Farmer being a wife-basher were very low, but our taunts were good natured and not personal. It got him off his game so I think our sledges found the mark. And that's what sledging all about.

And JF, I went to big footy, but the thread was gone before I got there.

[CureTheSane]

Originally posted by robbieando
However this crap about not bringing up is personal life, to me is wrong. The man hit his partner, which in my books is the lowest thing a man can do. I have grown up seeing for myself the effects partner abuse can have on a family, not only at the time of the abuse but 30 years after it. Trust me I have no time for men who beat up women, and I have no problem bringing such events up.

Perhaps a bit of bias coming in there then Robbie?

I hadn't realised that he had been tried and found guilty.

Personally, I don't think it should be used against him even if it has been.

Why bring his personal life into it?
Just makes the game less about the game and more about trying to antagonise a player for the sole purpose of being able to abuse someone to me.

But some people will take anything they can get, and ram it home until everyone sitting around him wants to knock him down just to shut him up.

What worries me, is that JF seems to have become some sort of crowd representative for the Swans.
He is a cheer leader in the cheer squad is he not?
Posts like this one here, and the one at Big Footy don't do much for the club IMO.

[swan_song]

I didn't notice Farmer's antics, but at one point in the game he seemed to be having a bit of a dustup with a Swannie player down the randwick end...it may have been Crouchie. I had the glasses on and was following the play, so missed it. But some wag in the crowd yealled out something along the lines of "Hey Jeff, that's not your girlfriend there"... It brought an immediate round of guffawing from those around...

[silent lurker]

The commentators mentioned that Farmer had a dustup with Fosdike in the third quarter.

[stellation]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
Why bring his personal life into it?
Just makes the game less about the game and more about trying to antagonise a player for the sole purpose of being able to abuse someone to me.

I agree. Fans in the crowd dragging a player's personal life in to heckle them just leaves a bad taste in my mouth... it feels like "I want to have a go at someone and shouting at the footy is my only avenue..."... which I imagine is probably not the case anyway, just the impression it leaves on me.

I was disapointed that Magic was booed in Brisbane, I am disapointed that Farmer was heckled about his personal problems in Sydney.

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by Bart
Jeez JF, you've got them going at bigfooty


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showth...5&pagenumber=1

Yeah mate. Am regretting putting it there. Some of the reactions have been bemusing to say the least.

It seems that acting like a feral yet taking the moral upper ground when it comes to putting one's thoughts onto internet forums seems to be par for the course these days. It is just so easy to 'tutt tutt' somebody online. I mean, there are people saying they have never barracked a player in the past, PULLLLLEEEEEEASE!

Maybe my explanation of what happened what not clear enough. (Des indicated that at the NBL Grand Final on Tuesday.) I wanted the post to get people talking about the fact that Jeff Farmer gave the impression of being a guy totally off his rocker on Sunday.

I didn't succeed in that.

Hopefully Farmer loses it again before the season is out.

JF

[JF_Bay22_SCG]

Originally posted by CureTheSane

What worries me, is that JF seems to have become some sort of crowd representative for the Swans.
He is a cheer leader in the cheer squad is he not?
Posts like this one here, and the one at Big Footy don't do much for the club IMO.

Mate, I have to ask why, especially considering you are only reading things on hearsay.

It is a job of barrackers to test out opposition players with gentle barbs from time to time. In soccer it is ten times as extreme as it is in footy. And the players have the time to abuse you back (Joe Didiluca of the Melbourne Knights throwing cash register rolls BACK at the Marconi faithful one match does stick out! )

Away from home (Melbourne excepted) I subconsciously cut down on the majority of barbs at opposite players. Why, because being the Official Cheer Squad, I want opposition supporters to not only develop a soft spot for not only our team, but us as Swans supporters in general. Even when this woman was doing her best to be as unfriendly and grumpy as she could at the Port game last July, I was trying to get into friendly banter with the Port supporters around me. Luckily several saw that I was trying to do this, and responded in kind. I could have let fly, but chose not to, out of fear for the reputation of my club.

I am in earshot of opposition fans. Comments only stirr people up, such as the ice-throwers in Brisbane who needed little provocation. Or the Western Bulldogs drunk who started swinging punches when teased with the ditty "Wooden Spoon, Wooden Spoon" at him.

However, I hold no official title within the Cheer Cheer. Nor would I want to. Because I hate being gagged, and want the best for my club (which often means criticism in order to bring about change.) I lead the chants, lug the flags around Australia, co-ordinate the banner at grounds like Adelaide & Perth. I help where I can. But my aim is to get people animated in supporting the team. If I can get people laughing at the same time by singing a witty ditty or making a shrewdly timed comment, then I'll do that.

Serious CTS, don't comment on scenarios you don't know about. People just seem to take the moral upper-ground on internet forums. We were teasing a seemingly-dangerous individual in Jeff Farmer. And he bit.

JF