Reserves

[Reggi]

Saw it and just some observations

LRT brought his own ball, must have taken 15 marks, could have been more. Was a class above anyone on the field, and that level, unfortuantely his current light body probably prevents him from translating that into senior football. Will pose selection problems considering Doyle looked under-done, great game.

Powell - bit undisciplined atm, needs to bulk upo still for AFL but a serious talent.

Schmidt - looks good, needs to work on his disposal

Rogers - over-ran a few balls, another that looks like further development needed, could push for selection, but I wouldn't think at the moment

Dempster - The curse of being DR J's love-child continues.

[liz]

Re: Reserves

Originally posted by Reggi


LRT brought his own ball, must have taken 15 marks, could have been more. Was a class above anyone on the field, and that level, unfortuantely his current light body probably prevents him from translating that into senior football. Will pose selection problems considering Doyle looked under-done, great game.

I think this demonstrates the gulf between reserves and AFL football. Didn't Doyle do much the same last week for the reserves that LRT did yesterday? Lewis did look very good though, and his work rate was impressive.

Originally posted by Reggi

Powell - bit undisciplined atm, needs to bulk upo still for AFL but a serious talent.

Powell looked to me yesterday like a player who was bored playing reserves. When he set his mind to it he looked very classy and a strong mark, but it was a patchy effort. He needs to set his mind to playing consistently excellent football at this level because he is clearly capable of it. Opportunities will arise some time this season for him to break into the seniors and he just has to make sure it is impossible to overlook him when those chances do arise - and also that he is in the right mental frame of mind to step up to the next level.

Does anyone know how the Western Creek Lions sit within the Canberra league? It looked like a training run out there for the Swannies this afternoon and I hope there are better teams out there who will press them harder and stop the youngsters developing bad habits.

[chammond]

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Originally posted by Reggi

LRT brought his own ball, must have taken 15 marks, could have been more.

That's excellent . . . just what he needed. He must be a chance to get back in the seniors next week, especially given Doyle's effort.

I can't see the point in playing Doyle, and then not giving him a run in the ruck. He's quite skilful for such a tall man, and he needs to be in the game as much as possible to make use of those skills. Crashing around a congested forward line will just get him injured again.

[sharpie]

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Originally posted by chammond
That's excellent . . . just what he needed. He must be a chance to get back in the seniors next week, especially given Doyle's effort.

I can't see the point in playing Doyle, and then not giving him a run in the ruck. He's quite skilful for such a tall man, and he needs to be in the game as much as possible to make use of those skills. Crashing around a congested forward line will just get him injured again.

As I just stated in another thread, I suspect Roosy is just easing him in, as he sees the importance of this bloke come finals time. Plus crashing around in the forward line shouldnt get him any more injured than crashing around in the ruck.

[Rob-bloods]

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Originally posted by chammond
That's excellent . . . just what he needed. He must be a chance to get back in the seniors next week, especially given Doyle's effort.

I can't see the point in playing Doyle, and then not giving him a run in the ruck. He's quite skilful for such a tall man, and he needs to be in the game as much as possible to make use of those skills. Crashing around a congested forward line will just get him injured again.

Agree entirely, pet hate that someone has a run in the reserves to get match fit, then no time on the ground in firsts. I know the match hardly went to plan, but would you now risk Doyle against Kangas at Manuka, I would not. Surely five minutes in the ruck each quarter would have been ok. Seeing both he at one stage and Ball'y quite often chasing the lightweight Cats defenders seemed odd.

[Reggi]

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Originally posted by lizz
I think this demonstrates the gulf between reserves and AFL football. Didn't Doyle do much the same last week for the reserves that LRT did yesterday? Lewis did look very good though, and his work rate was impressive.



Powell looked to me yesterday like a player who was bored playing reserves. When he set his mind to it he looked very classy and a strong mark, but it was a patchy effort. He needs to set his mind to playing consistently excellent football at this level because he is clearly capable of it. Opportunities will arise some time this season for him to break into the seniors and he just has to make sure it is impossible to overlook him when those chances do arise - and also that he is in the right mental frame of mind to step up to the next level.

Couldn't agree more really, my love-child did himself no favours yesterday. Should have taken a leaf from LRT's book on how to impress selectors.

Doyle looks like he needs more match fitness, LRT like he needs more strength

[EMJ]

Rogers played really well - great goals - is bulky and good runs.
LRT did do well. Nicks looked lost no drive.

[Plugger46]

Doyle had 36 minutes on the ground last night, according to the Herald Sun. The ball, only went near him a couple of times, and from my memory he wasn't given a run in the ruck. So I think it's fairly hard to get a gauge on where he's at.

[Nico]

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Originally posted by chammond
That's excellent . . . just what he needed. He must be a chance to get back in the seniors next week, especially given Doyle's effort.

I can't see the point in playing Doyle, and then not giving him a run in the ruck. He's quite skilful for such a tall man, and he needs to be in the game as much as possible to make use of those skills. Crashing around a congested forward line will just get him injured again.

Agree entirely. When about the worst aspect of our game is centre breaks, and what we have seen of Doyle suggests that's where he should be.

Just wasted trying to make a forward out of a player so big.

Throw him in at the deep end. If he gets injured, well so be it.

[chammond]

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Originally posted by sharpie
Plus crashing around in the forward line shouldnt get him any more injured than crashing around in the ruck.

Any other player and I would agree with you, but Doyle gets injured when he plays forward rather than when he plays in the ruck.

[sharpie]

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Originally posted by chammond
Any other player and I would agree with you, but Doyle gets injured when he plays forward rather than when he plays in the ruck.

If you're referring to the Burgoyne attack, that was pretty reckless on the player and not the ball, was quite a freak accident.

[chammond]

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Originally posted by sharpie
If you're referring to the Burgoyne attack, that was pretty reckless on the player and not the ball, was quite a freak accident.

Doesn't change the observation - it was a freak accident when he did his knee against Carlton . . . playing up forward.

Forget about playing Doyle as a leading forward. When he rotates forward, put him in the goal square, drop the ball on his head, and let his height make the difference. Much less likely to have freak accidents.

[sharpie]

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Originally posted by chammond
Forget about playing Doyle as a leading forward. When he rotates forward, put him in the goal square, drop the ball on his head, and let his height make the difference. Much less likely to have freak accidents.

I agree with this. But the midfielders weren't doing this on saturday night, and so I think it is wrong for people to be calling for him to be dropped because he didnt get a possession

[monopoly19]

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Originally posted by sharpie
But the midfielders weren't doing this on saturday night, and so I think it is wrong for people to be calling for him to be dropped because he didnt get a possession

I agree... I doubt he was put into the forward line and told to lead every which way. It was up to the midfielders to utilise his height in the goal square, and they didn't manage to do it. I don't think Roosy would be too dismayed that he didn't get many possessions. It was unfotunate that our midfield collapsed on the day that a long bomb into the square would have been good for the team and for Doyle to get some effective game time.

[SWANSBEST]

Lizz


You asked about the playing strength of Weston Creek. I know that they look ordinary but when one considers that they only won a few matches last year after not winning for the previous 2 seasons it puts the win in the correct perspective . They seem to have a new coach every year including ex Swan Steve Wight a few years ago.

Belconnen won the last 2 premerships. Queanbeyan won about 5 or so premerships out of about 8 years prior to Belconnen.

The Swans probably will not get too many easy games like the Weston Creek game .


Last year the Swans Reserves were downed by Queanbeyan in the Preliminary Final.