Melbourne choke Sydney

[stellation]

Originally posted by monopoly19

We had our chances, but didn't take them.

Exactly. Not to belittle Melbourne, because they did punish us in the midfield, but we certainly had the opportunities to win and just failed to convert. And we (and so we should) expect better of our team.

[floppinab]

Re: Melbourne choke Sydney

Originally posted by sWAns63
Did the Swans suffer from playing too many talls Doyle , Ball & Goodes not to mention Saddington & Hall this was highlighted when Maxfield left the ground

Didn't think it was that, but I was left confused again as to why Goodes rucked probably 70 odd % of the second half when again it was Doyle that appeared to have the better of White in the first half.
Roos seems to have a fixed idea of his rotations and not too much is going to change them. I'd like to see him be a bit more flexible depending on what is happening during the game.

I noticed an issue with Goodes goalkicking again last week (with the goal of the year being an exception). His general confidence can really go up and down and occasionally he goes a bit mental (that thump on White was just silly). He seems to have a real problem dropping the ball straight onto his boot.

[Mike_B]

I think Goodes was used primarily at the centre bounce to try and counter White's leap, but one it came to stoppages around the ground, Ball and Doyle were used because the rucking style was more body on body where White's leap was less of a factor.

[dendol]

Apart from the poor disposals and THAT miss, I thought Goodes played very well around the ground. He made space took some strong marks. On that same note, I think O'Keefe played his best game of the year. Finished with 2 goals, but could have had three, which the umps took off him, and then Hall tried his best to screw it up! Very good leading and strong marking as well.

[Sid]

Few things that let us down:

1. Saddington - he let neitz have everything when he got moved onto him. Kicking out on the full from the back line. I thought last week would have done him good in confidence but obviously not. He had a shocker apart from a few good marks.

2. Our centre clearances was just ridiculous until Goodes started rucking. I think thats what cost us the poor second quarter.

3. Poor disposal, which started from the start of the game. Poor goal kicking towards the end too. We always took a bit too long to get rid of the ball and they applied plenty of pressure on us all the time.

Roosy seemed pretty frustrated i thought. We'll have to get back to the basics at training today. This game was so similar to the one we played against Geelong.

[liz]

Re: Re: Melbourne choke Sydney

Originally posted by floppinab


I noticed an issue with Goodes goalkicking again last week (with the goal of the year being an exception). His general confidence can really go up and down and occasionally he goes a bit mental (that thump on White was just silly). He seems to have a real problem dropping the ball straight onto his boot.

His lack of goal-kicking confidence is becoming a real issue. It's not just the ones he's missing but the shots he's refusing even to take. There was the one yesterday where he passed off to Schneider, who was fortunate enough the get the in-the-back free despite the ball not quite carrying to him. Last week there were at least three occasions where he was in prime position to have a shot for goal but instead handballed off to a player under pressure. Schneider and Maxfield were two - can't recall who the other player was - and in each case they were good enough to still slot the ball through but they were tougher shots than the ones Goodes would have had himself. Then there was the one when he kicked the ball onto Kennelly who was in a lot of space and closer to goal, but is a defender and not a noted goal-kicker from set shots. Goodes was in an eminently kickable position himself.

He needs to get this sorted, IMO, because it could start to play on his confidence around the rest of the ground.

[Bleed Red Blood]

Re: Re: Re: Melbourne choke Sydney

Originally posted by lizz
His lack of goal-kicking confidence is becoming a real issue. It's not just the ones he's missing but the shots he's refusing even to take. There was the one yesterday where he passed off to Schneider, who was fortunate enough the get the in-the-back free despite the ball not quite carrying to him. Last week there were at least three occasions where he was in prime position to have a shot for goal but instead handballed off to a player under pressure. Schneider and Maxfield were two - can't recall who the other player was - and in each case they were good enough to still slot the ball through but they were tougher shots than the ones Goodes would have had himself. Then there was the one when he kicked the ball onto Kennelly who was in a lot of space and closer to goal, but is a defender and not a noted goal-kicker from set shots. Goodes was in an eminently kickable position himself.

He needs to get this sorted, IMO, because it could start to play on his confidence around the rest of the ground.

Exactly, we heard in the pre-season that he was working on his goalkicking.

That kick to Schneids when Goodesy was closer was a terrible decision and we were very luck to get away with it.

[Diego]

Adam Goodes is o0ne of the worst kickers of the footy going around.

He hasnt got a good technique and his follow through is pathetic. He really doesnt want to have a set shot and thats a worry. We need plugger there for a few weeks to teach the basics of kicking a sherrin.

A really poor kick for a brownlow medalist..i would maybe say one of the worst. But everything else is perfect...i guess you cant always have it all.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Diego
Adam Goodes is o0ne of the worst kickers of the footy going around.

He hasnt got a good technique and his follow through is pathetic. He really doesnt want to have a set shot and thats a worry. We need plugger there for a few weeks to teach the basics of kicking a sherrin.

A really poor kick for a brownlow medalist..i would maybe say one of the worst. But everything else is perfect...i guess you cant always have it all.

I have no problem with the general thrust of your comments, and Goodes' kicking for goal was one thing I commented that he needed to work on in pre-season. However, your comments are interesting given that you said just a month ago that we were too fickle here, too many couch experts, too harsh on some players, and various other comments. That does seem a bit hypocritical!

[Diego]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I have no problem with the general thrust of your comments, and Goodes' kicking for goal was one thing I commented that he needed to work on in pre-season. However, your comments are interesting given that you said just a month ago that we were too fickle here, too many couch experts, too harsh on some players, and various other comments. That does seem a bit hypocritical!

My comments were about Saddo. He was shot at after every game.

I am stating the obvious buddy with Goodes..

[dendol]

Its ironic that this lack of confidence in goal kicking is happening to him though, because at the start of the season he was quoted as saying he wanted to be a goal kicker - to influence a game on the scoreboard, not just posessions. Im pretty sure he would be dirty on himself for some of his disposals and running shots at goal last night. He will be doing alot goal practice with Ball methinks!

[Nico]

Originally posted by Diego
Adam Goodes is o0ne of the worst kickers of the footy going around.

He hasnt got a good technique and his follow through is pathetic. He really doesnt want to have a set shot and thats a worry. We need plugger there for a few weeks to teach the basics of kicking a sherrin.

A really poor kick for a brownlow medalist..i would maybe say one of the worst. But everything else is perfect...i guess you cant always have it all.

If you look closely, he tends to roll the ball over when he puts ball to boot so he kicks the ball on the wrong end, thus putting the tredectory in a downward motion. he does it coming out of middle and invariably does a scrubby kick.

Also think he lairises at times. His problem when he kicks for goal on the run is that he runs sideways when he kicks rather straight at the goals.

[Tooth Fairy]

Kennelly looked like he was actually struggling. Didn't seem to have the run he normally has. Perhaps was carrying an injury into the game?

[Diego]

Originally posted by Tooth Fairy
Kennelly looked like he was actually struggling. Didn't seem to have the run he normally has. Perhaps was carrying an injury into the game?

I noticed this as well. He seems to be a bit down at the moment.

Last week when the song was sung after the roos win, Kennelly did not look happy at all..actually I am sure i saw him just mumbling the words.

Something is on his mind? Maybe Leo Barry cleaning him up really annoyed him? Something is not right.