Maxfield

[Captain]

We need more from a captain than what Maxfield is providing.

We needed a leader in that last quarter, a captain to stand up and lead ala Kelly. We needed a fighter to get in there and get the ball. Where was Maxfield? On the bench running around the boundary.

Now as I was at the game I'm not aware of his injury status, though he looked fine when he was running laps.

Who cares about one loss tonight. If we beat Essendon next week it's all better. However if we are to be a serious contendor, we need a leader.

Stand up Stewie and do something. If not, stand down and give someone else a go.

[liz]

Re: Maxfield

Originally posted by Captain

Now as I was at the game I'm not aware of his injury status, though he looked fine when he was running laps.

Maybe then you should look up the facts - just reading a post or two on this board would give you the answer - before you post comments like that.

We didn't lose that game because of Stewie - we lost because our midfield didn't stand up as a group and because we were playing a good team, that played well tonight and that was better than us - today.

[dendol]

Re: Re: Maxfield

Originally posted by Captain
We need more from a captain than what Maxfield is providing.

We needed a leader in that last quarter, a captain to stand up and lead ala Kelly. We needed a fighter to get in there and get the ball. Where was Maxfield? On the bench running around the boundary.

Now as I was at the game I'm not aware of his injury status, though he looked fine when he was running laps.

Who cares about one loss tonight. If we beat Essendon next week it's all better. However if we are to be a serious contendor, we need a leader.

Stand up Stewie and do something. If not, stand down and give someone else a go.

I reckon "Captain" from RWO should be considered as our next skipper. He knows what hes talking about, and I bet he could have played with a busted shoulder last night when we needed that bit of inspiration. And I bet our Captain could have played against Geelong after getting smashed in the head as well.

You really should read this thread to see that you only one of a few who think this:

http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4417

Really, who do you think should replace Stewie?

[Captain]

Re: Re: Maxfield

Originally posted by lizz
Maybe then you should look up the facts - just reading a post or two on this board would give you the answer - before you post comments like that.

We didn't lose that game because of Stewie - we lost because our midfield didn't stand up as a group and because we were playing a good team, that played well tonight and that was better than us - today.

Maybe you should practice what you preach and read my post. I never blamed Maxfield for the loss, I merely stated that he needs to do more as captain.

Granted he was injured. My apologies that I didn't spend an hour reading posts at midnight to find out this piece of news. As I said, he was running laps right in front of me and looked ok.

There were many passengers out there last night, not just Maxfield. I'm just making the point that as our captain it would be great if he could stand up and play a blinder of a game. It's tough to expect the younger players to carry the team when your captain is underperforming.

My solution - maybe just let Maxfield concentrate on his footy, not the captaincy. I would love to see someone like Kirk or Crouch to get the nod. These guys may not be superstars but they exemplify what it means to be a captain.

[dendol]

how can you acknowledge Maxfield was injured and then call him a passenger in the same sentence?

[chammond]

Re: Re: Re: Maxfield

Originally posted by Captain

My solution - maybe just let Maxfield concentrate on his footy, not the captaincy. I would love to see someone like Kirk or Crouch to get the nod. These guys may not be superstars but they exemplify what it means to be a captain.

What a marvellous irony you have in your pseudonym.

[Bear]

Clearly Maxfield is an important part of the club, but I think his on-field impact has deteriorated over the last 12 months.

This may well be his last year - particularly as we desperately need more, young midfielders to develop and ultimately he is occupying a midfield spot.

Let's not forget that over his career he has been inconsistent with some poor years. Should he not have a significant impact this year I think it may be his last. He is the sort of guy that would make that call for the greater good though.

I think he would make a good club runner.

Let's hope he (and the midfield generally) lifts a little as our weakness is in the middle.

[motorace_182]

Maxfield puts his body on the line every week for his team every week, you can not question his passion, dedication or love for the club. He is the best man for the job at this stage. He goes out there and sets an example for other juniors (eg Bevan) every week by throwing himself, not considering the consequences. His form may have dropped from a few years ago, which is generally expected as he ages, but he is definitely in our top 22, do not fire a few shots at his performances over the last week or two without firing at a few others first.

This may well be his last year

He has a desire to play to 2005 at least, hopefully beyond.

I think he would make a good club runner

[sharpie]

It is amazing how attitudes change from one week to the next. Last week almost everyone here was singing dixy, today it feels like the ides of march here.

[Red]

Originally posted by sharpie
It is amazing how attitudes change from one week to the next. Last week almost everyone here was singing dixy, today it feels like the ides of march here.

For <i>mine</i> sharpie, the signs from last night are more depressing than the result.

- We lost at home in a game that some here had marked down as a 'percentage booster'.

- We let the opposition back into the game after having the ascendancy by making silly un-forced errors -- reminiscient of the bad old days.

- Roosey almost lost it -- for the first time.

- We've got S&Don at the 'G next week, a traditional spanking for about the last 8 years

And if you're superstitious (like me), this game last year marked our 'turnaround'. Does this mean that we've now turned back the other way?

[swans_premiers]

Originally posted by Red

And if you're superstitious (like me), this game last year marked our 'turnaround'. Does this mean that we've now turned back the other way?

thats wat im scared of

[sharpie]

The thing is, this is probably the calmest I've been after a loss for some time, especially this year. I was also very calm during last week, as if last night's game was not of huge consequence. Since this season started, I have been uncontrollably stressed out during each and every game, as if I could feel something special happening this year, and just wanted it so bad (see my sig).

However, I think for my heart's sake, I've realised to calm it down and go with the flow. These boys do have the potential to make it big this year. They could also make a big mess of it. I want us to get through the first half of the season relatively unscathed now, so that we can make a full-blooded attack on the finals later.

1 loss does not wreck a season, and I think we have a lot more improvement in our team than Melbourne does. Plus, we've already seen how bad we can be, but at the same time, we've already seen signs of how good we may be. If that improvement comes in time, we will still be in a good position later in the year. Bring it on!

[Nico]

Originally posted by dendol
how can you acknowledge Maxfield was injured and then call him a passenger in the same sentence?

Because he doesn't know what he is talking about.

[Captain]

Originally posted by Nico
Because he doesn't know what he is talking about.

Oh my apologies Mr I Know Everything

I was merely stating my opinion on our captain who is struggling.

Have a look at the teams who make the grand finals and there is always a common factor that the captain would be in the top 2 or 3 players.

Voss, Buckley, Hird, Carey etc

I'm not saying that Maxfield should live up to these standards, especially at the end of his career. My point is that he is struggling with form and injuries, obviously not the ideal situation.

I agree he is a wonderful clubman and a good off field mentor to younger players. Yes he would still be in our best 22. Just. As has been mentioned on other threads, it would be terrible for a kid playing good footy to be dropped to keep Maxfield in the side based on the sole fact he is the captain.

We need an onfield leader, a matchwinner (or potential one). I believe a player should be selected to the role who will grow with the captaincy, will spend more time on the ground then on the bench and play the majority of games.

[ScottH]

Originally posted by Captain

We need an onfield leader, a matchwinner (or potential one). I believe a player should be selected to the role who will grow with the captaincy, will spend more time on the ground then on the bench and play the majority of games.

I agree. Maxfield has been a great player for us and has always given his utmost on the field, but I don't think he has that spark, that a great Captain, has. Look at how Kelly used to inspire the team and the fans when he got near it. He would try to make something happen(it didn't always happen) but he lifted the team.

Like Voss and Hird, even injured they are inspiring when on the field.

I predicted, back in 1999, to a fellow Swan supporter that Jude Bolton would be the next captian. (hey, I was wrong). He reminded me of Kelly diving head first into packs and coming out with the ball, or atleast a free kick.

Maybe a change of captaincy would improve Maxfields came by removing some pressure. (It helped Lara and Tendulkar). Not everyone is cut out to be a leader.

Note: I am not having a go at Maxfield as a player, I am a big fan of his long left kicks into the forward line.