Powell In For Saddington

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by Captain
Just when I thought it couldn't get stupider....

Well that's constructive . . .

In case you think this is a blind hit out at the Tiger, it's not. I admire him immensely. But I admire Magic too and I've seen him have dud games - haven't you?

There is one moment in particular when Tiger was on Neitz and Neitz lead into a mark. That's not surprising but the fact he was clearly pulling away from Tiger was. Tiger just stumbled to a trot as Neitz took the mark. I love watching Tiger for his speed and commitment. Against the Roos and Dees I saw neither. So I'm curious to know what's wrong and how it can be fixed ? If you think that's stupid, please reassure me that Tiger is playing at 100% right now and I'll rest easy.

[floppinab]

Craig Bolton, Kennelly. LOL LOL

Kennelly's been a little tentative, probably due to his cracked ribs from the Cats game, but a looooong way from being dropped.

Man what's going on with this forum lately???

I guess you're sore on Bolton coz he couldn't cover Holland *and* Neitz at the same time!!!!

James struggled a bit no doubt about it, trouble is missing a couple of gettable spoils (particularly a couple in the last q) gets heavily magnified because of the price that gets paid. As has been said midfield's 2nd and 4th quarter efforts in stopping their free run from the centre was worse than the backline performance.

[Captain]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Well that's constructive . . .

In case you think this is a blind hit out at the Tiger, it's not. I admire him immensely. But I admire Magic too and I've seen him have dud games - haven't you?

There is one moment in particular when Tiger was on Neitz and Neitz lead into a mark. That's not surprising but the fact he was clearly pulling away from Tiger was. Tiger just stumbled to a trot as Neitz took the mark. I love watching Tiger for his speed and commitment. Against the Roos and Dees I saw neither. So I'm curious to know what's wrong and how it can be fixed ? If you think that's stupid, please reassure me that Tiger is playing at 100% right now and I'll rest easy.

To be more constructive:

Kennelly is a fantastic player who has been out injured. He has had a couple of weeks back, playing ok football, nothing special. This is totally understandable for a player coming back from injury. That is no reason to think about dropping him.

The guy has talent, skill and plenty of endeavour. He will be back to his best with a couple of games under his belt.

There are plenty of players that would be dropped before Kennelly - LRT and McVeigh being the obvious ones.

[Go Swannies]

Originally posted by dread and might
all this focus on saddo also takes attention away from the fact that craig bolton had a shocker on the weekend. if powell is going to be given a chance, it's bolton who should make way. (IMHO)

I think we should start a thread after each game in praise of our unseen heroes. Craig had a good game against the Dees - he just wasn't very visible. Crouch and Ben did well, too. And I don't think Jude had such a bad game either - he didn't see much of the ball but when he did he had an impact. Heath James did alright with an impossible task.

On the other hand, some of our more visible players need to lift their games. 'Nuff said about Adam - haven't seen him play so badly since Eade left. But whereas he looked cowed under Rocket, he looked a bit too relaxed vs the Dees. LRT fumbled and got caught when others may have got it away. Saddo's rushed, set, kick out on the full in our 50 that gave the Dees a goal with just seconds on the clock was inexcusable. Bazza is marking better (and smarter) now but his kicking accuracy has dropped dramatically for shots he should get. The positives were Ryan's marking and kicking (as it has been for a while now) and Nick D's footy smarts and golden boot.

Overall, it seemed to me that the Swannies thought they'd get over the line against the Dees and simply ran out of time to be desperate. For two quarters the Dees ran hard and were relentless in defence - they looked more like the Swans than the Swans did. Maybe we needed the wake-up? We've won a few games in a row when the other team fell over - maybe we have to remember that good teams won't do that.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Overall, it seemed to me that the Swannies thought they'd get over the line against the Dees and simply ran out of time to be desperate. For two quarters the Dees ran hard and were relentless in defence - they looked more like the Swans than the Swans did. Maybe we needed the wake-up? We've won a few games in a row when the other team fell over - maybe we have to remember that good teams won't do that.

This, to me, is a big part of why I think we lost and why I worry about every game, particularly when we are doing well leading up to the game.

[chammond]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Heath James did alright with an impossible task.

Had to chuckle when I read that. When Neitz beats Saddington it's because Saddo is no good . . . when Neitz beats James he did alright with an impossible task.

Saddo's rushed, set, kick out on the full in our 50 that gave the Dees a goal with just seconds on the clock was inexcusable.

Nearly choked when I read that. I can understand that you may be a full paid up Saddo-Nazi but why would you resort to making up stories like that?

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
As things stand, Saddo in the forward line will only work against one of their weakest defenders, he can't play in the midfield, and he's not up to a key defensive spot.

That is all correct, and basically tells you that he's a liability.

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by sharp9
Saddo is a much better shot for goal than Doyle

Don't really agree with this one. From what I've seen of Doyle, he looks quite capable in front of goals.

[Plugger46]

Originally posted by Go Swannies
Against the Roos and Dees I saw neither

From memory he kicked a great goal running off half-back against North.

Chammond,

Saddo has been beaten comprehensively many times. Jamesy has been beaten once. Neitz got a couple of Lucky ones, and the ones he got on leads were kicked to him sensationally.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by chammond
Had to chuckle when I read that. When Neitz beats Saddington it's because Saddo is no good . . . when Neitz beats James he did alright with an impossible task.

Don't think anyone commented on Neitz beating Saddo. The times when Saddo were beaten in recent memory were Tarrant, Brown and Carey, all cases where the forward beat the back in straight one-on-one contests. Not quite the same as a wide open forward line with midfielders streaming forward and experiencing no pressure. Easily 3 of Neitz's goals came from this scenario.

[stellation]

Originally posted by hammo

Craig Bolton is our best defender.

There is this guy called Andrew Schauble...

[floppinab]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
The times when Saddo were beaten in recent memory were Tarrant, Brown and Carey,

Don't won't to overhighlight the point but Pike took him to the cleaners in Rd. 1. as well.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by floppinab
Don't won't to overhighlight the point but Pike took him to the cleaners in Rd. 1. as well.

Ah, of course - silly of me to forget!!

[Dpw]

Originally posted by penga
how so? as a key forward you dictate the terms to your defender, while he isnt in the mould of an alastair lynch, he is in the mould of a rawlings...

if i were to pick a FF for the swans it wouldnt be a lynch, our gameplan dictates that we kick to a target and not a contest... where brisbane's gameplan is mainly to a contest and not a target...

this is why hall is such a good player for us as he provides a very fast, agile - for his size - target, and when the ball is rarely bombed into the air he can hold his own

saddington at FF can provide a tall target - which is what the gameplan and roosy dictates - while he would be mauled by a leppitsch if the ball was bombed into the air... however this is where saddington could dictate terms and he would also leave a leppitsch for dead on the lead...

I think Saddo does not have the football smarts to play FF, Gary Loin once said it was the hardest spot on the field to paly and hated playing there. Put simply the mental game would be above him.

[Dpw]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by chammond
[B]Had to chuckle when I read that. When Neitz beats Saddington it's because Saddo is no good . . . when Neitz beats James he did alright with an impossible task.


Fair point chammond, only thing you could add is that James hasn't been beaten as many times or as often as Saddington, but your point is valid as it is a little sad to see the above posters make every exscuse possible for James but offer none for Saddington.