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  • SWANSBEST
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    • Jan 2003
    • 868

    Roos calls for full-time umpires

    Roos calls for full-time umpires
    By Alex Brown, Karen Lyon
    May 4, 2004




    Swans coach Paul Roos and the umpires at the MCG.
    Picture: Getty Images


    Sydney coach Paul Roos, still angered by Saturday's controversial 10-point defeat by Essendon, has called on the AFL to pay umpires full-time salaries of $150,000 to $200,000 to bring them in line with the game's players, coaches and medical staff within the AFL.

    Frustrated at umpiring errors in the game - two of which were conceded by AFL umpires' coach Rowan Sawers - Roos risked an AFL sanction by suggesting that James Hird's $20,000 fine for criticising umpires was "money well spent". Last night, Roos claimed the AFL placed amateur umpires in "an extremely difficult position" by failing to offer them a legitimate career path.

    He said promising young officials should be identified, sent to a purpose-built umpiring academy and offered university scholarships in order to improve the standard.

    "I spoke to (AFL football operations manager) Adrian Anderson last week with a few suggestions from us, just saying that if the AFL is worried about the image of umpires as we all are then they should offer them a full-time career," Roos said. "Bump up their salaries to $150,000 or $200,000 a year and give them a proper career path.

    "The clear way forward is to have umpires as full-time professionals. I think at the moment they're all at a clear disadvantage and the AFL, and the whole industry, makes things extremely difficult for them.



    "Footballers, coaches, club staff, doctors, fitness trainers and even Jeff Gieschen and Rowan Sawers are full-time. The umpires are the only ones who aren't and I feel for them. It's impossible to devote the time to their umpiring that everyone else within the AFL devotes to theirs."

    Roos suggested officials meet early in the week to analyse video footage of recent matches, train with AFL clubs and tutor aspiring officials.

    "We're frustrated, but we've moved on from the weekend," he added.

    Essendon coach Kevin Sheedy was his usual ebullient self when told of Roos's comments. "I'll wait to see what the Sundance Kid has said. But is he suggesting that we haven't played any good footy at all? Does he really think that Essendon got every free kick it deserved or didn't have a few paid the other way?

    "I felt we played better for more of the game than Sydney. That's the reason we won the game. We played better than them on the day. End of story."

    Last night, Sawers admitted the Swans had been on the receiving end of two poor decisions in the final quarter. "There are a couple of decisions that went against Sydney in the last quarter but certainly there was a lot of others that were paid correctly," he said.

    He referred to a decision against Craig Bolton that ended in a free kick and goal to Dean Solomon, which he admitted should have been the Swans' free kick. "It is disappointing, front-on contact, the Sydney player being pushed by Solomon, Solomon has got no eyes for the football, a free kick should have been payed to Bolton," he said.

    Sawers also conceded the umpire missed a throw by Nathan Lovett-Murray to Matthew Lloyd that resulted in another late goal.

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  • floppinab
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1681

    #2
    Re: Roos calls for full-time umpires

    Originally posted by SWANSBEST
    Roos calls for full-time umpires
    By Alex Brown, Karen Lyon
    May 4, 2004
    Swans coach Paul Roos and the umpires at the MCG.


    "I spoke to (AFL football operations manager) Adrian Anderson last week with a few suggestions from us, just saying that if the AFL is worried about the image of umpires as we all are then they should offer them a full-time career," Roos said. "Bump up their salaries to $150,000 or $200,000 a year and give them a proper career path.

    "The clear way forward is to have umpires as full-time professionals. I think at the moment they're all at a clear disadvantage and the AFL, and the whole industry, makes things extremely difficult for them.


    http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/r...436540627.html
    That probably close to a $2mill hit per year to the AFL to pay them that sort of money. Given they are now talking about doubling the goal umps, it might happen but it's going to take a while.

    On the upside you would think Roos talking up meaty payrise for the umps should get us a bit of kudos, $2 mill is a ****load more than $20k

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    • Sanecow
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2003
      • 6917

      #3
      Full time umpires is such an obvious and good idea. It would also encourage interest in umpiring at a younger age if there is a possible career in it. It's hard to believe that the AFL isn't already considering it - but if umpires are willing to work cheaply, why would the AFL consider paying them? Should they go on strike?

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      • Old Royboy
        Support Staff
        • Mar 2004
        • 879

        #4
        I've waited until now before posting this week, as I had to give the blood pressure and temp time to come down.

        Roosy brought this one up last year too, and it just makes good sense. Why should we put up with having games ruined like last week because there are bunch of part timers in charge. Consider that ex players/ (retired delisted etc) may consider umpiring after football if it was a proper paying job, and that would be a good thing.
        Pay peanuts get monkeys

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        • CureTheSane
          Carpe Noctem
          • Jan 2003
          • 5032

          #5
          but we've moved on from the weekend
          Doesn't really sound like it
          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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          • Red
            Foreign Correspondent
            • Jan 2003
            • 651

            #6
            Would it really make them any better? And what would they do all week anyway?

            The only positive outcome I can see of 'professional' full-time umpires is if it raises their accountability. That is if they're pros, then they're subject to the same criticism and penalities of other non-performing professionals in the game.

            Otherwise they'll just keep on blithly crushing the hopes of thousands and walk away 'whistling'.

            (No, I haven't got over it yet. It'll take a while).
            To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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            • Sanecow
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Mar 2003
              • 6917

              #7
              Of course it would make them better at it. If you only did your current job for a couple of hours a week, would you be as good at it as you are? Also, if it was a well paid profession, competition for the position would be higher and we could expect better quality umpires. Especially if they were on contract each year

              What would they do all week? They could review all the games they umpired on the weekend for starters. Peer review is a useful method of improvement!

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              • dawson
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2003
                • 1007

                #8
                Originally posted by Red
                And what would they do all week anyway?

                Practice bouncing the ball. That's all they seem to be concerned about.

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                • Red
                  Foreign Correspondent
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 651

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sanecow
                  Of course it would make them better at it. If you only did your current job for a couple of hours a week, would you be as good at it as you are? Also, if it was a well paid profession, competition for the position would be higher and we could expect better quality umpires. Especially if they were on contract each year
                  Good points -- esp. the bit about the contract!
                  What would they do all week? They could review all the games they umpired on the weekend for starters. Peer review is a useful method of improvement!
                  I think they do the review thing anyway. I'm not so sure about the effectiveness of 'peer review' though.
                  To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!

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                  • Ruckman
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #10
                    Re: Roos calls for full-time umpires

                    Originally posted by SWANSBEST
                    Roos calls for full-time umpires
                    Sydney coach Paul Roos, still angered by Saturday's controversial 10-point defeat by Essendon, has called on the AFL to pay umpires full-time salaries of $150,000 to $200,000 to bring them in line with the game's players, coaches and medical staff within the AFL.

                    Either Paul trying to grease up the umpires or he has even less grasp of what constitues a reasonable salary.

                    I had a stint as an umpire years ago (it was horrible . . . after 3 or 4 weeks I began to think my name really was "F______g B_________d") but even so . . . . . $150,000.

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                    • dendol
                      fat-arsed midfielder
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1483

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Roos calls for full-time umpires

                      Originally posted by Ruckman
                      Either Paul trying to grease up the umpires or he has even less grasp of what constitues a reasonable salary.

                      I had a stint as an umpire years ago (it was horrible . . . after 3 or 4 weeks I began to think my name really was "F______g B_________d") but even so . . . . . $150,000.
                      If $20K got the Bombers a dream run with the umps, imagine what we'd get if every ump got $150 - 200K a year!

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