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To say that we couldn't win the game even if the Umpires hadn't have stuffed up. What would he know!
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Well, Essendon were clearly the better side all day.... But the umps denied us the chance to pull off a massive upset despite being rubbish all day.
Maybe we didn't deserve to win, but we still should have got that chance...
177th Senior AFL Match - Round 4, 2009 - Sydney vs Carlton, SCG. This is obviously out of date. I suppose I'll update it once I could be bothered sitting down with the fixture and working it out....
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I agree.
And he summed up what I've been getting at re Roos' umpire comments pretty well too.The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Yes. How magnanimous his comments were ("...in 40 years of football I've never seen a game decided by the umpires").
Amazing what a few years in retirement will for someone's temperament. Because If <i>he</i> had been coaching the swans on Saturday, we would've seen eyes and viens buldging, blood-red face and probably a bit of vomit too.
What I like about Roos' comments re. umpires is that he backs up his statements with facts, ie. BBBH last year and Es&scums' I50 frees. They don't have much comeback when he approaches it this way.To all those people who waited 72 years to see a South Melbourne/Sydney Swans premiership HERE IT IS!!Comment
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I think on balance we probably didn't deserve to win but what frustrated me was not only did those decisions cost us, but detracted from our withering run. I was sitting in the stands, excited, in anticipation of what was to come, they had no run, and the umpires just cruelly affected the outcome. Roos' comments were actually very smart, got the message across, yet made it hard for the league to punish him. I prefer Parkin to Watson whose eyes just seem to goggle out of his head.LIFE GOES ONComment
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I especially liked the comment about $20,000 being well spentOriginally posted by Snowy
Roos' comments were actually very smart, got the message across, yet made it hard for the league to punish him.
. How can Parkin speak like that? It would be impossible to not imagine that at least 1 game in fourty years was won by the umpires. Two Saturday games were examples of that. Anything could have happened if the umpires decisions were correct, possibly Sydeny would have won.
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Simple. Parkin couldnt give a flying **** about Sydney and thinks we couldnt have won because we didnt deserve it. Many teams win games when they dont really deserve to win. We've seem time and time again teams dominate for three quarters, but switch off for one and lose. The Bulldogs did this in the same round where we COULD have.Comment
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Maybe he is still upset at us for being only one of two teams to defeat them in 1995......Originally posted by dendol
Simple. Parkin couldnt give a flying **** about Sydney and thinks we couldnt have won because we didnt deserve it. Many teams win games when they dont really deserve to win. We've seem time and time again teams dominate for three quarters, but switch off for one and lose. The Bulldogs did this in the same round where we COULD have.
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I have also heard him quote several times how he was offered the Sydney coaching job at one stage, but knocked them back because the board thought ?their chances of success were much greater than the playing list showed him?.Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun
I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl WarrenComment
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We played like Poo
Paul Roos' comments about the umpires, although true but bad umpiring decisions go both ways throughout a 22 round season, shouldn't detract from the fact that his coaching was similar to Gary Buckenara and Rodney Eade's coaching in there time as the Swans coach - absolutely shocking !!
The more Roos persists with this short chip kicking along the boundary lines philosphy, the more we are heading in the direction of the bottom of the ladder than the top.
I didn't know that there was a problem with kicking long and straight when have you have talented players like Maxfield, Schneider, Barry, Kennelly, Crouch and Matthews who can run the ball out of defence by going straight and long to the talented forwards of Hall, Goodes, Davis and O'Keefe !!
What a pity it took Roos and his brains untrust three quarters to work this out !! If they persist with the short chip kicking along the boundary lines then Richmond just may do the Swans this Subday - it nearly happened against the Cats in Round 3 !!Well somebody told me, You had a boyfriend, Who looks like a girlfriend,That I had in February of last year, It's not confidential, I've got potential
Somebody told me, The Killers, Hot Fuss, 2004.Comment
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Agreed. One thing tho, we weren't so bad that we had no chance. In the first quarter, we had the early play. In the second quarter, we may have scored no goals but the Bombers only scored two. Lloyd only got one goal fairly. We also kicked seven goals in the last quarter in heavy conditions.Originally posted by Snowy
I think on balance we probably didn't deserve to win but what frustrated me was not only did those decisions cost us, but detracted from our withering run.
I say that we put this behind us and anticipate next week. We've got Richmond this week and we should win.
And remember, we have the Bombers at home in round 21. We should make life as interesting as possible for the Bombers. Whenever Lovett-Murray handpasses, call "Throw!", whenever Solomon takes a contested mark, boo him, whenever Lloyd takes a mark, count down from fifteen, then call "Play on"."Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi finalComment
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I have heard Parkin speak on a number of ocassions at business functions and he uses that story alot.Originally posted by Rob-bloods
I have also heard him quote several times how he was offered the Sydney coaching job at one stage, but knocked them back because the board thought ?their chances of success were much greater than the playing list showed him?.
He has expanded on those thoughts on a number of ocassions to basically say the club was the worst managed he had seen at the time and had dellusions of granduer.
DST
"Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"
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Re: We played like Poo
I am sorry, but this is a log of hogwash!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by cressakel
Paul Roos' comments about the umpires, although true but bad umpiring decisions go both ways throughout a 22 round season, shouldn't detract from the fact that his coaching was similar to Gary Buckenara and Rodney Eade's coaching in there time as the Swans coach - absolutely shocking !!
The more Roos persists with this short chip kicking along the boundary lines philosphy, the more we are heading in the direction of the bottom of the ladder than the top.
I didn't know that there was a problem with kicking long and straight when have you have talented players like Maxfield, Schneider, Barry, Kennelly, Crouch and Matthews who can run the ball out of defence by going straight and long to the talented forwards of Hall, Goodes, Davis and O'Keefe !!
What a pity it took Roos and his brains untrust three quarters to work this out !! If they persist with the short chip kicking along the boundary lines then Richmond just may do the Swans this Subday - it nearly happened against the Cats in Round 3 !!
What Sydney served up on the weekend had nothing to do with the coaching and as much to do with a team that was being belted in the middle and collectively going back to it's old inhibited ways under Eade (when in doubt, chip the ball wide and slow the game down).
To much emphasis is placed on coaching during a game. Blind freddy can tell you that our intended style is to set play up from half back by winning the ball in numbers and then to use our speed through the corridor to kick it long into the forward line or spot players up in the corridor (see goal scoring % from last year).
What you saw on the weekend was the players reacting to the situation and moving away from that game plan.
As far as I am concerned Roos coached adequately on Saturday in that he was able to turn the team around in the last Qtr and get them back to playing the style he and they wanted to play. No mean feat considering the domination the SnDon had shown in the 3 Qtr's beforehand.
DST
"Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"
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Re: Re: We played like Poo
I largely agree with you but disagree about the extent of the Dons domination. In fact it was close in the first quarter and we won the last. We were clobbered in the two quarters when it was pouring with rain.Originally posted by DST
No mean feat considering the domination the SnDon had shown in the 3 Qtr's beforehand.
DST
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Walls said something very similar to this on thread 'on the couch' on Monday; the Swans didn't deserve to win as the Dons dominated the game.
While I do agree that the Dons dominated the game, if the Swans had the strenght to over power them in the last quarter why wouldn't that be a grand victory? Just because a team plays average football for 2 quarters (Swans case; 2nd and 3rd) doesn't mean they don't have a chance to fight back.
There isn't a forum at the end of the game where everyone gets together and says "well because you didn't dominate in 3 quarters of football, you'll be disallowed the 4 points."
4 points is 4 points no matter how it is won. This excludes the Saints and Brisbane match.
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