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  • sharp9
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 2508

    I was so blase....

    When Malceski and Sunny got injured.

    They are (from the limited time I saw them play) more skilled dosposers of the ball than all the midfielders who played on Sunday (on current form). williams was (again) an embarrassment for a former champion....

    You know you are really in trouble when the ones who used toi be considerd the battlers (Kirk and Crouch) are the only ones you want to see with the ball in hand. They look positively silken compared to Williams, Maxfield, Bolton, Buchanan, Ablett and Mathews. McVeigh seems to be the only one with above average skills and he is either not getting a game or not getting the ball.

    Sheesh! Now we have to seriously consider playing McGlone or Willoughby just so that if a Swan gets the ball he might actually get it to a mate!

    it seems (from reports) that Thewlis suffers from the same disease (really willing but can't kick the bloody thing).

    Good God, maybe we have to bring back Nicks....he was never quite this bad was he?

    I counted (at one point) 14 entries into the fifty by the Swans of which 9 or 10 went to the defender UNCONTESTED. Plus a couple which Richmond took contested, a couple of spills and ONE Swans possession inside the 50. It is difficult to believe that it is possible to play worse than that.

    We did not have a real possession for more than ten minutes in the final quarter (that is to say a disposal wher it goes from one Swan to another). Actually it may have been more like 15 minutes.

    We did, however have the ball in hand (but fumbled) on at leat ten occasions. Williams and Ball were again the worst.

    It really seems like Willo doesn't give a crap anymore. "Oh, I don't think I'll bend right down and actually take possesion....oops I've kicked it OOBOTF....Oh, how funny, that one went along the ground/straight on to the chest of an opponent....oh, well, C'est La Vie!"

    We have to face the fact that Richmond are more skillfull than us. We didn't have a bad day....by which I mean we are always worse than every other team at picking up the ball, kicking it to a team mate and catching it before it hits the ground. We were terrible last year as well for the majority of the time...Adelaide, Hawthorn, Port, Freo......however, our willingness and run overcame it....it allowed a bigger margin for error in the actual disposal.

    Anyway to get back to my original point I was so wrong to think that we would not need our fringe midfielders this year and that we had the luxury of another year developing them.

    BTW Fixter is available. We should play him, if only to wake Fossy up.
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  • sharpie
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    • Jul 2003
    • 1588

    #2
    Re: I was so blase....

    Originally posted by sharp9
    We did, however have the ball in hand (but fumbled) on at leat ten occasions. Williams and Ball were again the worst.
    How funny did it look when Ball was running along the wing near the O'Reilly stand and after his first bounce, decided he'd bend down and touch the ball on the ground next time. He almost snapped himself in two trying not to fall over while doing it. His arms and legs were going everywhere.

    And then, not suprisingly, his disposal straight after was woeful.
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    • Go Swannies
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      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #3
      Re: Re: I was so blase....

      Originally posted by sharpie
      How funny did it look when Ball was running along the wing near the O'Reilly stand and after his first bounce, decided he'd bend down and touch the ball on the ground next time. He almost snapped himself in two trying not to fall over while doing it. His arms and legs were going everywhere.

      And then, not suprisingly, his disposal straight after was woeful.
      Ever see a giraffe bend down to drink at a waterhole?

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      • hemsleys
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #4
        Re: Re: I was so blase....

        Originally posted by sharpie
        And then, not suprisingly, his disposal straight after was woeful.
        His disposal has been extremely woeful all year! Maybe that kick in Brisbane has sapped his confidence.

        But again his was not on his pat malone, with poor disposals.

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        • sharpie
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          • Jul 2003
          • 1588

          #5
          Re: Re: Re: I was so blase....

          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          Ever see a giraffe bend down to drink at a waterhole?
          hehe, classic
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          • JF_Bay22_SCG
            expat Sydneysider
            • Jan 2003
            • 3978

            #6
            Re: Re: Re: I was so blase....

            Originally posted by Go Swannies
            Ever see a giraffe bend down to drink at a waterhole?
            No, have you?

            And if so, where?

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            • Go Swannies
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              • Sep 2003
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              #7
              Re: Re: Re: Re: I was so blase....

              Originally posted by JF_Bay22_SCG
              No, have you?

              And if so, where?

              JF
              Kruger NP in South Africa. And the giraffe has a very good look around before assuming the position, because he's helpless against predators once he's bent over. Hmm, maybe the Swans analogy goes farther than I thought . . .

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              • sharp9
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2508

                #8
                Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do not believe Ball has kicked a successful disposal (ie marked by a Swan) since that miss in RD 1. He would have had maybe 20 attempts.

                And while we're on that miss....with all this "confidence" talk, maybe it really was a disaster?
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                • lizz
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16758

                  #9
                  Re: I was so blase....

                  Originally posted by sharp9
                  When Malceski and Sunny got injured.

                  They are (from the limited time I saw them play) more skilled dosposers of the ball than all the midfielders who played on Sunday (on current form).

                  Have you ever seen Malceski play in the seniors? Thought not. And Sunny's disposal in the few AFL games he has played has been mixed. The pace of senior AFL is so much quicker than the lower levels that skills do not always translate from one level to the next.

                  It is highly doubtful that either Malceski or Sunqvist would make much of a difference to the current team, particularly as neither are in-and-under midfielders or 6'5'' 95 kg KPPs.


                  We have to face the fact that Richmond are more skillfull than us. We didn't have a bad day....by which I mean we are always worse than every other team at picking up the ball, kicking it to a team mate and catching it before it hits the ground. We were terrible last year as well for the majority of the time...Adelaide, Hawthorn, Port, Freo......however, our willingness and run overcame it....it allowed a bigger margin for error in the actual disposal.
                  I suggest you are being a bit selective with your memory there. Our disposal skills were pretty ordinary in the Hawks, Adelaide and Freo games but they were pretty good in the rest. In fact the overall skill level of the team picked up enormously as soon as Roos took over, supporting the idea that skills are linked to confidence and self-belief.

                  Even this year, with the exception of a couple of players, our skills have been pretty sound until the weekend. It's been the run (or lack of it) and inability to get quick ball out of the centre that cost us against the Bombers and Dees, together with an inability to find a free man when the opposition has been playing tight.


                  BTW Fixter is available. We should play him, if only to wake Fossy up.
                  Fixter hasn't played any football for well over a year. If he gets rushed back straight into the senior team then we are in deep trouble.

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                  • BAM_BAM
                    Support Staff
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 1820

                    #10
                    It's funny we're talking about Bally and that kick again. I printed off Bron's interview with Andrew Ireland back on 5th April, but forgot to read it. I found it in my brief case this morning while on the train and read it. Andrew mentions how much it effected Bally at the time. Perhaps it is still there, as he's not the same player.

                    Perhaps subconsciously he just doesn't want to go through same pain he did when injuring himself and is unintentionally holding back?
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                    • sharp9
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2508

                      #11
                      Re: Re: I was so blase....

                      Originally posted by lizz
                      Have you ever seen Malceski play in the seniors? Thought not.
                      No need to be sarcastic, Lizz...I have seen him in parctice games and I liked what I saw a lot....

                      And Sunny's disposal in the few AFL games he has played has been mixed.
                      That's true, a couple of up and under's....(alright one of them went backwards and cost a crucial goal)....but it has been mixed with some absolute scorchers into the forward fifty. My feeling (as I have said before) is that he is a class act who is better than he thought.....ie he rushed some disposals assuming he had no time, what with it being a step up to AFL and all, when in actual fact he had more time and space than he thought. I believe he can really play. Plus he is very good overhead - 188 cm midfielder after all

                      It is highly doubtful that either Malceski or Sunqvist would make much of a difference to the current team, particularly as neither are in-and-under midfielders or 6'5'' 95 kg KPPs.
                      Disagree strongly...Sunny goes in hard and fast at the bottom of packs....however the players who aren't doing that as much as we would like (Maxi and Willo) are not the ones he might have come in for anyway.


                      Fixter hasn't played any football for well over a year. If he gets rushed back straight into the senior team then we are in deep trouble.
                      We are in deep trouble....that is exactly my point
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