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  • dawson
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2003
    • 1007

    Interesting article in today's SMH

    Life's tough under the microscope
    May 14, 2004

    Sydney's opponents have done their homework and it's paying off. Richard Hinds reports on the Swans' fall from grace.

    In professional sport it is never long before the hunter becomes the hunted. Talk to the backroom boys at some of the teams who have played and, in recent weeks, beaten Sydney this season and it is apparent that they have been stalking their prey.

    If the Swans were badly underestimated as they rolled to third place last year, they are no longer slipping under anyone's guard. But how greatly has the opposition's tactical response contributed to the Swans' recent run of three consecutive defeats?

    Sydney coach Paul Roos has a matter-of-fact response to the proposition his team has been "worked out". "I reckon that sort of stuff is a bit of a myth," he says. "We're on TV every week. If they didn't do that last year then they can't have been doing their jobs."

    However, with the help of a few opposition assistant coaches who have plotted some victories - or unexpectedly close finishes - against the Swans, here are some of the areas other clubs claim to be targeting.

    Keeping the Swans defence accountable

    The pace and skill of the Sydney defence was one of their great strengths last season. Tadhg Kennelly and Leo Barry were particularly adept at finding space and running the ball out. A quick break would give the Swans time to find a teammate in the midfield who could, in turn, quickly pick a forward target.

    Last year Hawthorn and the Kangaroos worked hard on making the Swans defenders accountable for their opponents and achieved victories over Sydney that defied their ladder positions. Now, more teams are making sure the Swans defenders don't have the same freedom.

    Melbourne did a particularly good job of curtailing the Swans' defensive rebound. Subsequently, some opponents have been left with the impression that a Swans team drilled to retain possession freezes when its defence cannot run free and is forced to play an ineffectual game of keepings off.

    Against this, Roos notes the Swans kicked 15 goals while losing to Essendon and Melbourne - often enough to win. "It's not as if we are not kicking goals," he says. "The opposition might be kicking too many."

    Luring Brett Kirk from the stoppages

    Kirk has been lauded for his ability to shut down the opposition's gun midfielder. He does not merely achieve that feat by scragging his opponent, quite often he just gets the ball first.

    So, rather than allow Kirk to obtain damaging clearances from ball-ups and throw-ins, some opponents are taking him away from the stoppages. Collingwood used the tactic at Telstra Stadium last year when captain Nathan Buckley sometimes sacrificed his own game by moving away from the pack. Richmond did the same with Kane Johnson last Sunday.

    Roos suggests that Kirk's influence has been overstated. "No insult to Kirky but I see it the other way," Roos says. "If he takes the opposition's best player out of the game then that's a win for us."

    However, with the retirement of Daryn Cresswell - one of the Swans' best in-close players - some believe Sydney's ball-winning ability has been diminished. Jude Bolton is good at getting the ball at stoppages but his hands are not as fast as Cresswell's.

    Another potential problem is that the Swans ruckmen are struggling to win tap-outs and, when they do, are attempting to keep the ball in close rather than going for a tap. However, the Swans' dearth of in-and-under ball-winners makes it hard to win possession in the traffic.

    Exploiting an undermanned defence

    This is not so much a tactic, just a patently obvious approach against a team which lacks tall key defenders. If you can get the ball in long and direct, the Swans are going to struggle to contain opposition monsters such as Matthew Richardson, David Neitz and Matthew Lloyd.

    Targeting individuals

    Inevitably, some of the Sydney players who had fantastic seasons last year are being paid more attention. Bolton once played the role of minder, now he is being tagged - effectively by Richmond's Simon Fletcher last week.

    At the same time, while the Swans game plan is dissected, the foibles of some players become better known. For example, there is some thought that while Barry is brave, athletic and mobile, he always runs in a straight line when he has the ball. Opposition forwards will be well aware of this when he grabs the footy and know how best to stop him. It is also apparent Adam Goodes is much more damaging running in the midfield than as a key forward.

    Of course, as Roos says, if the opposition clubs did not know these things by finals time last year they were negligent. What is unknown is how much the inevitable microscope brought by success is unsettling the Swans now.

  • timtayla
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2004
    • 112

    #2
    Last year everyone expected we would finish last, but we lost to the lions in the finals

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    • Charlie
      On the Rookie List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4101

      #3
      All of these points have been highlighted here in the past couple of weeks.

      Not a huge amount we can do about the last two, but the first two have fairly obvious solutions. Leo is doing ok, but Tadhg isn't. So move Tadhg up to the wing, where he can find the ball and be at his damaging best without having to follow his man.

      If we need Kirk at the stoppages - and we do - then Kirk should go to the stoppages. What's a Kane Johnson going to do? He's either going to leave the stoppage, giving us an extra man there and in all likelihood first access to the ball, or he's going to stay at the stoppage where Kirk can both man him up and go for the ball himself. The simple answer here is that Kirky no longer needs to react to everything the opponent does. When he is being manned as much as he is manning his opponent, he has the exact same advantage in determining play that they do.
      We hate Anthony Rocca
      We hate Shannon Grant too
      We hate scumbag Gaspar
      But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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      • lizz
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        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16768

        #4
        I'm with Roos that this is all a bit of a beat up. The article even uses the performances of the Roos and Hawks fairly early last season as evidence for its argument. That supports Roos' point that the other coaches weren't doing their job last year if they didn't have a plan to address Sydney's strengths.

        Last year most of our victories were either narrow or just "comfortable". We belted very few teams. This year all our losses have been narrow, just around a couple of goals. That suggests that the marginal turnaround isn't that great. Add to that that our goal kicking accuracy snuck us a couple of wins last year that otherwise might not have happened and the team is somewhat down in this department so far in 2004 and it is clear that the fall-off in around-the-ground performance isn't that great.

        Last year many players hit the best form of their careers and maintained it for the bulk of the season. A few of these have not regained that yet. I fully believe they can - ie last year's form was not a fluke - but they haven't done it yet. Add to this that the team has been less stable than last year due to injuries, that the last two games have been in the wet which we have never been very good at (see the Pies game late last year), three of the four teams we have lost to are in pretty good form, we have lost one of our key midfielders from last year, and there are mutiple reasons why form is a bit down at the moment.

        Clearly tactics have some bearing on a game, but really the team just has to start playing better.
        Last edited by liz; 14 May 2004, 10:37 AM.

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        • Go Swannies
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          • Sep 2003
          • 5697

          #5
          As so often Lizz I fully agree with you. I hope the era of "playing better" starts tomorrow.

          Going to be at the pub in Alexandria tomorrow?

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          • Country Member
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2004
            • 52

            #6
            Typical Richard Hinds article: he is a pseudo-intellectual wanker who lives in Melbourne, barracks for Collingwood and spends his time bagging the Swans, Ian Thorpe and Greg Norman to name a few. He should get a real jog in the media, like writing for Mad Magazine.

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            • floppinab
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1681

              #7
              Originally posted by Charlie
              All of these points have been highlighted here in the past couple of weeks.

              Not a huge amount we can do about the last two, but the first two have fairly obvious solutions. Leo is doing ok, but Tadhg isn't. So move Tadhg up to the wing, where he can find the ball and be at his damaging best without having to follow his man.

              If we need Kirk at the stoppages - and we do - then Kirk should go to the stoppages. What's a Kane Johnson going to do? He's either going to leave the stoppage, giving us an extra man there and in all likelihood first access to the ball, or he's going to stay at the stoppage where Kirk can both man him up and go for the ball himself. The simple answer here is that Kirky no longer needs to react to everything the opponent does. When he is being manned as much as he is manning his opponent, he has the exact same advantage in determining play that they do.
              Agree with that, was extreeeeemmmly disappointed to see Kirk continually disappear out of the stoppages last week, surely the coaches could come up with a rotation (i.e. Williams on Johnson when he pulls away from the pack to leave Kirky in there, for e.g.).

              As for the rucking we are tenth in hitouts (St. Kilda are 14th, Melbourne are 12th) so our rucks are getting their hands on the footy, they are either not giving our midfielders first use (happened a bit against Richmond, a number of taps going direct to their midfield), or our midfielders are simply not effectively getting the footy (duh!). In addition we do not use the bash it forward technique that Brisbane noticably use and Melbourne did as well quite a bit against us.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Originally posted by lizz
                Add to that that our goal kicking accuracy snuck us a couple of wins last year that otherwise might not have happened and the team is somewhat down in this department so far in 2004
                Ah, and that was another 'law of averages' prediction!!
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • floppinab
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 1681

                  #9
                  The law is an ass!!!!

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9720

                    #10
                    no no no, the law is right. otherwise all my footy analysis goes out the window.
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • Sid
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 385

                      #11
                      These problems are definitely true, its just a matter of how we deal with it. Clubs do homework on every team, so its not like we're gonna be a crap team from now on because everyone has figured us out.

                      He makes it sound like "we got u now! you got no chance now!"
                      Using hypothesis testing via confidence intervals:
                      Nick Davis mark inside 50 = goal

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