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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    Eade makes interesting point

    The Age -

    Cleaning up when it counts


    By Rodney Eade
    May 16, 2004








    Hawthorn's Sam Mitchell has a strong body and clean hands.
    Picture: GETTY IMAGES


    It is down to the frenetic last five minutes of the round-one thriller between the Brisbane Lions and Sydney at the Gabba. Less than a goal separates the teams. The ball is on Sydney's forward flank, with a cluster of players fighting for the loose ball. Tackle after tackle after tackle, and the ball spills free. Players fumble under the pressure. No one can successfully dispose of the ball.


    Lions captain Michael Voss - who had barely trained, let alone played, during the pre-season - waltzes into the middle of the scrum and grabs the tumbling ball at his first attempt. He then proceeds to handball to a teammate 25 metres away.


    It is something that about 10 other talented players in the area could not do. And it sums up the ability and consequence of having "clean hands".


    Clean hands is the ability to take a moving ball that is below knee-level, or take clean possession in a tight situation with much traffic. It is a different skill to marking solidly on the lead. It takes poise, a clear mind, good touch and courage to continually do it.


    The greatest advantage for teams that have players with clean hands is in dead-ball situations. All teams heavily focus on stoppages, with the aim of gaining first use of the ball. Their strategies for centre bounces and boundary throw-ins rely heavily on players who can take clean possession and then dispose of the ball efficiently.


    It is not paramount to have a dominant tap ruckman, although it helps. Last season, Collingwood was second only to Adelaide in the AFL when it came to stoppages (that is, taking away the ball or clearing it), but the Magpies were 13th in hitouts. The Crows have a good tap ruckman in Matthew Clarke, great first-touch players in Andrew McLeod, Mark Ricciuto, Tyson Edwards and Simon Goodwin, and follow a sound strategy in such situations.


    Teams have now expanded their strategy to include second and third-phase disposals. An example is Hawthorn's centre-square work when it is playing well. Peter Everitt palms it to Sam Mitchell (strong body, clean hands), who handballs to Shane Crawford, who will then either kick or handball to a runner outside the square. But teams need to be wary that if they try one tactic only, or have only one "go-to" player: they become predictable. Flexibility is the key.


    A strong component of a player who has consistent clean hands is a willingness to stand his ground and have his head over the ball. Apart from courage, it helps if he has a strong body, especially in the thighs. The player must be prepared to be the first to the football. Pace is not essential. Many times, a quick player is first to the ball, only to fumble.


    Consider some of the greats of the past in this area: Greg Williams (probably the best), Brett Ratten, Geoff Raines and Dale Weightman.


    The best of today's players are Voss, McLeod, Simon Black, James Hird, Scott Burns, Robert Harvey and Scott West. At times, you will hear Mitchell referred to by the nickname, "The Extractor", which is very apt for a person who is the go-to player at stoppages.


    In my time as Sydney coach, the two best Swans at stoppages were Daryn Cresswell and Wayne Schwass. With midfield rotations, there was a noticeable drop in clearances when these two were rested.


    A strategy to combat the dominance of a player at stoppages, apart from his normal tag, is to utilise your own tagged player to block him. In today's match in Launceston, Fremantle might opt to use James Walker to tag Mitchell, hoping he uses his pace to run off the Hawk. But at stoppages, Walker would most likely be well beaten, so in these situations, the Dockers might get Paul Hasleby (who himself will be tagged) to go to Mitchell to either block him or take him on. Hasleby's tagger would follow, allowing Walker to become a loose man.


    One of the great attractions of Australian football is that players of all sizes, varying speeds and differing talents can play the game. With the push towards better athletes, the one constant still required is the ability to win the ball. To have first use of it is a great advantage and to have players who have clean hands gives teams a head start.
  • Bart
    CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
    • Feb 2003
    • 1360

    #2
    Re: Eade makes interesting point

    I've really enjoyed Rocket's comments this year, both in the press and on radio. Hope the guy gets a guernsey at some stage in the future.

    PS WOOO HOOOO 500 POSTS. REGULAR !!

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    • sharp9
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2508

      #3
      He read my post about us not having anyone who has that sort of skill who is currently either a) Ready to be a starting midfielder or b) Still able to play like he used to once upon a time.
      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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      • Rizzo
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 655

        #4
        I think The Captain needs to be used more in this capacity rather than tagging a player.

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        • hemsleys
          It's Goodes to cheer!!
          • Sep 2003
          • 23665

          #5
          Does this mean we will have to recruit Cresswell and Schwass in the National Draft??


          Or at least enlist Scwass (as Creswell is spoken for) to teach our boys how it is done!!

          I remember Wade Chapman being one of the quickest hand to foot kicks in the game. He was never a great skilled player, but he got the ball going forward quickly, which on the SCG was a huge advantage.

          PS Now you have become a regular in the side, Bart, we expect bigger and better things from you!! LOL

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          • Bart
            CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
            • Feb 2003
            • 1360

            #6
            Originally posted by hemsleys
            PS Now you have become a regular in the side, Bart, we expect bigger and better things from you!! LOL
            Well. I've just checked and I am number 21 to achieve this honour. One more and we have a team. But I have a fair bit of catching up to do with the following dodgy types, erm sorry veterans

            Charlie 1765
            NMWBloods 1678
            penga 1638
            robbieando 1423
            lizz 1422
            desredandwhite 1109
            Reggi 1077

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            • sharp9
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2508

              #7
              Maybe it's time for Charlie to be dropped to the seconds to find some form...I'm recommending it for all the other veterns BTW these numbers are only since JAN 2003 when the site was revamped
              "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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              • chammond
                • Jan 2003
                • 1368

                #8
                To have first use of it is a great advantage and to have players who have clean hands gives teams a head start.
                Mathews, Fosdike and Bolton have many good attributes, but clean hands under pressure is not among them. Mix these players on the ball with taggers like Crouch and Kirk, and it virtually guarantees that we will not get first use of the ball.

                Crouch and Kirk are actually quite good at the one-touch stuff at clearances, but they usually have other things on their mind. Even when they're not tagging, Crouch likes to grab the ball and run, and Kirk likes to throw the ball straight onto the boot. We just don't seem to have anyone who has both the skill and awareness to hit a running player with a fast handball out of a stoppage situation.

                Several times I've thought that Fixter and Bevan have the 'look' of likely types to fill that gap, and I've already declared Schmidt as the next Greg Williams. Unfortunately, none of them are going to be top quality on-ballers this season, nor even next year, I doubt.

                Roos has no choice but to keep experimenting until he finds a way to compensate for our shortcomings in the midfield - we've still got plenty of talent there, even if the mix might not be right yet.

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                • Old Royboy
                  Support Staff
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 879

                  #9
                  Eade is effectively talking about the difference between footballers and athletes, as it applies to midfielders. I think that Monty and Schneids are the footballers in our young players. I hope that Monty gets the chance to show it.
                  Pay peanuts get monkeys

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                  • penga
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2601

                    #10
                    the future for our midfield IMO looks pretty rosy:

                    schneids
                    buccy (i wouldnt have included him a couple of weeks ago)
                    bevan
                    mcveigh
                    sunny

                    then there are the very younguns in willo2 and schmiddy... everyone just be patient
                    C'mon Chels!

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                    • JF_Bay22_SCG
                      expat Sydneysider
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3978

                      #11
                      Originally posted by penga
                      the future for our midfield IMO looks pretty rosy:

                      schneids
                      buccy (i wouldnt have included him a couple of weeks ago)
                      bevan
                      mcveigh
                      sunny

                      then there are the very younguns in willo2 and schmiddy... everyone just be patient
                      Sadly, Sunny may well not have his contract renewed at the end of the season. He is out injured and has done little to date.

                      I'd like to see him stay, as he is a nice bloke. But banking on him as one of our midfield mainstays is a tad fanciful Penga.

                      JF
                      "Never ever ever state that Sydney is gone.They are like cockroaches in the aftermath of a nuclear war"
                      (Forum poster 'Change', Big Footy 04Apr09)

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                      • motorace_182
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 961

                        #12
                        Sunny will be lucky to be on the list for next season, at best he will be cut and picked up in the rookie draft. Gotta feel sorry for him, but he isnt the quick hands player we are looking for i feel
                        - Impossible is just a big word thrown around by small men who find it easier to live in a world they've been given, than to explore the power they have to change it. Impossible is not a fact, it's an opinion. Impossible is not a declaration, it's a dare. Impossible is potential. Impossible is temporary. Impossible is nothing!

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                        • robbieando
                          The King
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2750

                          #13
                          Sunny certainly isn't the in and under player we are looking for, but he could become a very good running midfield because his skills are quite good. Unlucky for him however is the timing of the injury because he is off contract at seasons end and with us looking like needing to clear space on the list he might make way, though I do hope he gets and another go on the rookie list if he is delisted.
                          Once was, now elsewhere

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                          • Charlie
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4101

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sharp9
                            Maybe it's time for Charlie to be dropped to the seconds to find some form...I'm recommending it for all the other veterns BTW these numbers are only since JAN 2003 when the site was revamped
                            Shh...

                            NMW is going to catch me, anyway. My reign at the top will be a short one, after Penga dominated for over a year.
                            We hate Anthony Rocca
                            We hate Shannon Grant too
                            We hate scumbag Gaspar
                            But Leo WE LOVE YOU!

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                            • penga
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2601

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Charlie
                              Shh...

                              NMW is going to catch me, anyway. My reign at the top will be a short one, after Penga dominated for over a year.
                              ill be back son

                              as soon as i finish my damned degree, in about 6 weeks!!!
                              C'mon Chels!

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