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  • Charlie
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4101

    Why all the hysteria?

    Everybody's overlooking something. They're overlooking what is wrong.

    The focus of SO many posts recently has been along the lines of 'Player X isn't up to it, we need to delist him asap. Also, our drafting hasn't been up to scratch so we should trade Players A, B and C in return for pick 5.'

    Very few have escaped. Off the top of my head, Mathews, Williams, Maxfield, Fosdike, Doyle, James, Ablett, Barry, Saddington, Nicks, Bolton, Ball, Buchanan and Rogers have all been highlighted at various times as players apparently not of the necessary standard to play AFL football.

    Even the recruitment of Barry Hall has been questioned, with the suggestion that perhaps we should have kept picks 13 and 17, simply because they have turned out to be good players. Forget the fact that there's no guarantee we would have picked those players, or that they would have developed to the same degree or been willing to stay at the Swans.

    In the past couple of days, it's over-stepped the mark, from the professional to the personal. I won't name names, because you know who you are - but cynical names like "God's gift to football" and offensive ones like "Fosdickhead" are simply ridiculous. They add nothing.

    Amidst all the bloodlust, all the hysteria and the occasional hatred... the actual problems have been ignored. It is not the ability of these players - most of them contributed to the good performances of 2003 and most of them had excellent, consistent seasons. The answer to returning to the top is NOT a massive bloodletting of experienced, talented players.

    The answer is to be found in what has actually happened to the Swans system - looking past the individuals to the collective way the team functions. In round 3, we were outplayed. Bloody Cressa, his cheekiness was much more fun when he was on our side. He knew our game, and knew how to counter it. But we won the game. In round 5, it was countered again, but we lost.

    Now, this is where the original problem occurred. There was no answer from the coaching box. No innovation. Suddenly, the old system didn't work - something that happens in the rapidly-evolving game of AFL football. However, we didn't evolve immediately, and before the innovation starting to come this week, confidence was gone.

    The players dropped their heads, and stopped believing in themselves. Gone was the carefree confidence and touch of pride that made our 2003 season what it was. This is something that can come back. I'm not saying use the same gameplan, just the same attitude. This is what the real problem is at the moment, not the players.

    Because if the confidence comes back, so will the form of those players. Jude will start to get the pill again. Tadhg will run with it. Players will start to become aware of how much time they have again, and not turn it over due to rushing their possessions. With faith in the tall blokes being able to mark it, we'll start to play more direct football again.

    I'm not saying not to criticise. I'm not saying that we've been good enough the last week. But really, it's gotten so far off the track it's not funny. It's only round 8. It's too early to talk about delistings, because they can't happen for months. And it's too early to assume that what is lost can't be found again.
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  • dendol
    fat-arsed midfielder
    • Oct 2003
    • 1483

    #2
    Amen to that!!! Like I've said in other posts, THE SEASON IS NOT OVER YET!

    All that talk of "tanking" games was really getting on my nerves.

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    • Go Swannies
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #3
      Thanks Charlie, there was a while there when I was so annoyed with the team that I thought of skipping the game this weekend. Then I realised that I'd probably feel better if I stopped listening to a whole bunch of people on RWO and just enjoyed the games instead.

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      • dawson
        Senior Player
        • Mar 2003
        • 1007

        #4
        Here Here!

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        • dread and might
          Back, strapped and intact
          • Apr 2004
          • 949

          #5
          hear hear. i can't believe some people are already talking about tanking games. i hope we don't ever resort to this. as i said in another thread, if the mystical confidence tap is turned on in a few players' heads, all of a sudden we are a threatening team again.

          we do need to play some more direct football. i would rather see us kick long and up the middle from a kick out and give up posession a few times than take 7 posessions going via centennial park, only to lose posession at half forward.
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          • Ruda Wakening
            Survived The Meltdown
            • Aug 2003
            • 1519

            #6
            Well said Charlie.
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            • BAM_BAM
              Support Staff
              • Jun 2003
              • 1820

              #7
              Charlie you absolutely amaze me. For one so young, you've got an older wiser head. I've often read your posts in awe and respect your opinion even when I don't agree with it.

              very, very, very indeed.
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              • hemsleys
                It's Goodes to cheer!!
                • Sep 2003
                • 23665

                #8
                Originally posted by BAM_BAM
                Charlie you absolutely amaze me. For one so young, you've got an older wiser head. I've often read your posts in awe and respect your opinion even when I don't agree with it.

                very, very, very indeed.
                Ditto.

                You keep putting everything into perspective, .....It is so bloody annoying.....hehe

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                • monopoly19
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1098

                  #9
                  100% agree with what you said Charlie.

                  And to Go Swannies - I was thinking of not watching the Eagles game last week, because there seemed to be so much wrong with the team! Then I realised that once you stop reading this messageboard, there's not all that much wrong at all.

                  Sure we've lost four in a row, but so did the Roos and look what happened to them last week. Confidence is huge, huge part of how our team travels, and even though we lost last week I thought there were more good things than bad (which says a lot considering Goodesy got injured).

                  I still love watching the boys play, and am looking forward to our next win (whenever that may be )

                  And I never actually heard that thing about Barry Hall, but sheesh... I don't even want to think about how our team would function without the big man!

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                  • lizz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16733

                    #10
                    Great post Charlie.

                    It's worth adding (as has been pointed out before) that we have a coach who is still on the steep part of a learning curve. This time last year we all thought he was God's gift to coaching because he is smart and able to inspire his players. To me he is still is both of those things. Let's just sit back and watch him learn, expand his repertoire, understand his players better, experiment with a few things etc etc

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                    • sydfan83
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2929

                      #11
                      I agree 100% with what Charlie has said.

                      I also think in the last 4 weeks we're seeing what 2003 might have been like if they hadn't found that confidence in the Melbourne game - without it, the Swans, like any team in the comp, are vulnerable (except for Brisbane - they always seem to have it).

                      Confidence is a funny thing though - with the Swans over the last few years at least, it's come and gone, and only last year did it look like they'd actually found a lasting self-belief, so I think they haven't lost it completely, and can turn it around. It could come back in a quarter like the Melbourne game in 2003 or it could take a couple more games!

                      It's really frustrating watching the team at the moment - a lot like 2002, parts of 2001 and mosf of 1999-2000 rolled into one, but you just never know with this team - something I've been quick to learn in my fairly short time following the Swans!

                      Agree there were a few good signs last week - probably that there was an attempt to run more through the middle compared to previous weeks - it's just that they're still out of form so the execution's letting them down.

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                      • dimelb
                        pr. dim-melb; m not f
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 6889

                        #12
                        The confidence can come back - we saw it in the last quarter against Essendon until we ran into a yellowjacketed roadblock! It'll come again.
                        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                        • floppinab
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1681

                          #13
                          There's still plenty of hope. It's been different things mostly associated with tactics each week that have brought us undone (bad defensive setup, dumb wet weather footy against the Tiges; centre clearances against the Dees; umps.... ahem poor ball movement against the Bombers).
                          The endeavour has been there. It gives me hope that we are not that far away from putting it all together. The only question is how it will come, continueing to try and play our game OR throwing the tactics to the wind and grind out a dare I say it, traditional, hard at it, win (much like the Hawks did on the weekend).

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                          • Wardy
                            The old Boiler!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 6676

                            #14
                            Well said Charlie - all of us here on RWO need to take a deep breath and hope that it all gets better, and if it does - fabulous, if it doesnt, oh well life goes on and there is always next year.
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                            • Snowy
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1244

                              #15
                              Talking about 'tanking', which is surely premature, would you think that the AFL would be concerned that there are fans of about four clubs urging their teams to 'tank'. Doesn't that suggest there is something inherently wrong with the system of draft picks and oncessions to poor performers. Is it time for a ballot or something else along those lines. It cannot be good for footy for fans to start thinking of next year so early in the season.
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