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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    Doc delivers some Goodes news

    ADAM GOODES' chances of making a dramatic recovery to play against Hawthorn on Sunday have improved since Monday according to Swans doctor Nathan Gibbs.

    But if the 2003 Brownlow medallist is going to get back on the field just nine days after tearing the posterior cruciate ligament in his knee, he has to retrain all the muscles in right leg first.

    And that could come down to Goodes winning the battle of mind over matter, says Gibbs.

    "They have done studies which show that recovery from any injury can be affected by optimism and pessimism," Gibbs told The Daily Telegraph yesterday.

    "People who are negative recover slower, while people who are positive recover quicker. So mind power does play an important part in the recovery process. And Goodesy is very positive and he wants to play as soon as he can and that's in his favour."

    Goodes snapped his posterior cruciate contesting the opening centre bounce of the Swans' clash against West Coast at Subiaco Oval on Saturday.

    MRI scans cleared the 24-year-old Swans star of any other damage to the knee joint and Gibbs believes the early signs of a quick recovery are positive.

    "He's a good chance [to play] from the point of view of how he was Monday," Gibbs said.

    "There wasn't much swelling but we gave the joint some cortisone and by Tuesday all the swelling had gone.

    We know he can run even through we haven't tested him yet.

    "The question is whether he can run, accelerate, jump and land comfortably and to be honest we won't know until we test him on Friday."

    That will all depend on Goodes's ability to retrain his quadriceps muscles in particular to take over the role his posterior cruciate used to perform in stabilising and keeping his tibia bone in place.

    Goodes has already started that process with Swans physiotherapist Matt Cameron.

    "He does a bit of quads work but his body has to learn to do it on its own," Cameron said.

    "When it learns that if 'I'm running around and jumping and changing direction I've got to have my quads on a bit harder and all the other muscles around my knee all working a little harder together', Goodesy will be right to play.

    "That's how you get the stability back. It's not so much mental but more to do with a subconscious training."

    But Cameron believes Goodes' build and playing style will work against his quest to be ready for Hawthorn.

    "Given that he's a tall jumping type player I think he's chances are pretty slight," added Cameron. "But I wouldn't be completely surprised if he suddenly do everything on Friday.

    "More than likely it's just going to take a week or two for his quads to take over and the muscles retrain around the area to do the job his posterior cruciate was doing."
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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    #2
    That's good news. It'd be great if he makes it. But the uncertainty makes the Hawks selection task even harder, anyway. I wonder how many minutes we'd need him on the field to justify starting him on the bench?

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    • floppinab
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1681

      #3
      I'm absolutely flabbergasted with this.
      The bloke has snapped his PCL so we are talking about a bunch of other muscles needing to take over.
      The dedication of these blokes just amazes me.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #4
        For god's sake let's leave him out for a week or two to make sure he is truly 100% fit.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • lizz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16778

          #5
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          For god's sake let's leave him out for a week or two to make sure he is truly 100% fit.
          Totally agree. The idea of someone subconsciously training different muscles in their body in the space of five days so they can spend 120minutes throwing themselves into one of the most energetic, multi-skilled team games going around sounds like a recipe for another injury, probably a soft tissue injury that could then take weeks to heal.

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          • Go Swannies
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2003
            • 5697

            #6
            Let's get Goodes out there and he can win it by himself! AFL.com has just listed the teams for this weekend as:

            SYDNEY v HAWTHORN
            Sunday, 1:10pm, SCG

            SYDNEY
            B:
            HB:
            C:
            HF:
            F:
            FOLL:
            I/C (from):
            IN:
            OUT:
            NEW:

            HAWTHORN
            B:
            HB:
            C:
            HF:
            F:
            FOLL:
            I/C (from):
            IN:
            OUT: -

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            • Nico
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 11339

              #7
              He snapped his PCL!!! Bit dramatic.

              If he snapped it we wouldn't be seeing Adam for a heck of a long time. Another bit of jounalistic licence/nonsense.
              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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              • sharpie
                On the Rookie List
                • Jul 2003
                • 1588

                #8
                Well, looks like the Match Committee have gone against conventional wisdom and listed several players to play in multiple positions in the side, hoping that we can field more than the regulation 22 players:

                SYDNEY v HAWTHORN
                Sunday, 1:10pm, SCG

                SYDNEY
                B: Crouch, Bolton, Bevan
                HB: Barry, Saddington, Kennelly
                C: Maxfield, Williams, Mathews
                HF: O?Keefe, Hall, Goodes
                F: Buchanan, O?Loughlin, Fosdike
                FOLL: Ablett, Doyle, James, McVeigh, Nicks, Powell, Warfe
                I/C (from): Ablett, Doyle, McVeigh, Powell, Warfe
                IN: Ablett, Doyle, McVeigh, Powell, Warfe
                OUT: Davis (thigh), Rogers

                Hope the umpires are lazy, or else we'll get penalised all day for having too many in the centre square at restarts.
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                • Bart
                  CHHHOMMMMMPPP!!!!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Go Swannies
                  Let's get Goodes out there and he can win it by himself! AFL.com has just listed the teams for this weekend as:

                  SYDNEY v HAWTHORN
                  Sunday, 1:10pm, SCG

                  SYDNEY
                  B:
                  HB:
                  C:
                  HF:
                  F:
                  FOLL:
                  I/C (from):
                  IN:
                  OUT:
                  NEW:

                  HAWTHORN
                  B:
                  HB:
                  C:
                  HF:
                  F:
                  FOLL:
                  I/C (from):
                  IN:
                  OUT: -
                  Both teams are a bit light on, don't you think ?

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                  • Ruckman
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    For god's sake let's leave him out for a week or two to make sure he is truly 100% fit.
                    I agree, having an injured and out of form Adam parked on the forward line (a spot which seems to do nothing but erode his confidence ) is an insane idea!

                    Mind you so was putting him into the centre-square.

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